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renthead4402

Les Mis Movie

Granted Wikipedia can be inaccurate, however there is a rumour there stating that Cameron Mackintosh announced a Hollywood adaptation of Les Mis was in the works. Anyone know the validity of that?
The Very Angry Woman

Re: Les Mis Movie

renthead4402 wrote:
Granted Wikipedia can be inaccurate, however there is a rumour there stating that Cameron Mackintosh announced a Hollywood adaptation of Les Mis was in the works. Anyone know the validity of that?


Of course he announced it. Watch "Stage by Stage," which was made in 1988.

Judging by the length of time between then and now and how nothing has happened since, I think it's fair to say a movie adaptation is in Dev Hell.
renthead4402

More specifically it says, "Cameron Mackintosh announced in 2006..." so this would have been a more recent announcement.
The Very Angry Woman

This must be what they're referring to; pity they couldn't be bothered to cite their source.

And it's not like it states anything we haven't been hearing since 1985.
olly

The Very Angry Woman wrote:
This must be what they're referring to; pity they couldn't be bothered to cite their source.

And it's not like it states anything we haven't been hearing since 1985.


Surely that's good news? He's basically saying that there will be one, just not directed by a 'big name director'.

I'm actually having second thoughts about it; I initially wanted it, but now... I don't know...

Do you not think it'll happen?
Aimee

Shocked but but but... I've not been asked to direct it... what's going on? Crying or Very sad
Brother Marvin Hinten, S.

Look at it this way. Phantom, for all intents and purposes, measured what kind of audience reaction a serious film musical would get. Note that both shows are produced by Cameron Mackintosh. I don't doubt he was considering it and that it's still on his to-do list. I do doubt that it is at any production stage right now.
Aimee

I agree there is no way its in production yet and pre-production can take yeeeeeeeeears so you never know.
Timmy_Wishes he was Quast

I'm hoping it doesn't get made!
If you take something from where it was originally intended i think you loose some of the magic!
Moci



Sorry, I can't find where I saved the one without the SAMPLE rubbish on.
The Very Angry Woman

If any of you have a souvenir brochure from London or the US from between 1989 and 1990, it's probably in there.
Bex

ah...there's nothing better than hearing about people destorying a good theatre show by making it into a film. here's praying that if they do...they get a cast better then that of phantom...you know...people who can act?
Sairin

Brother Marvin Hinten, S. wrote:
Look at it this way. Phantom, for all intents and purposes, measured what kind of audience reaction a serious film musical would get.


Replace "serious" with "sh!te" and you're right on the money.
Janni

I�d love a movie adaption I�ve just been to RENT and it�s amazing...wish Les Miz would be done like that.And I�m pretty sure it will be done till the end of the decade.
Orestes Fasting

Brother Marvin Hinten, S. wrote:
Look at it this way. Phantom, for all intents and purposes, measured what kind of audience reaction a serious film musical would get. Note that both shows are produced by Cameron Mackintosh. I don't doubt he was considering it and that it's still on his to-do list. I do doubt that it is at any production stage right now.


Mackintosh said sometime late last year that he was still planning on making the movie, and that he wanted to avoid Phantom's mistakes and not go for a big-name director. Which doesn't mean the movie is likely to come out any sooner, since they've been talking about a movie practically since the show was first put to stage, but it does mean that what happened with PotO isn't going to deter him. (Also note that, as Sairin said, I think Phantom flopped because it was a flat-out bad movie, not because it was a musical.)

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I'm hoping it doesn't get made!
If you take something from where it was originally intended i think you loose some of the magic!


Did that stop them from making a musical out of a story that was intended to be a book?

I'm not terribly excited about a movie version either, but that's because after PotO I simply don't trust them to do it well. Not because it couldn't be adapted well to cinema, but because I doubt it will be. Mackintosh's talk of picking a director for talent instead of fame is encouraging, but it still doesn't guarantee they won't butcher the plot or cast useless pretty faces with no vocal or acting talent.
Aimee

Me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me !!!

I didn't do 4 years training a film school for nothing you know!!! It was all so that I could film Les Mis one day. Very Happy We once had a thread with our screen plays on here, its long gone now but people liked mine! Smile

Cooooeeeee Mr Mackintosh... me me me me!! Applause
flying_pigs

Could you possibly post it again?
Megan the Phantom Girlie

I'm not against movie musicals at all, but Les Miserables accomplishes many things on stage that would be just plain stupid in a movie.

I vote no.
Eponine_Fantine

I think Les Mis could translate well to film...as long as they don't go casting big-name hollywood actors and pop stars. How bad could it be? Phantom and Rent turned out okay (well, in my opinion, great!)....
The Very Angry Woman

Eponine_Fantine wrote:
I think Les Mis could translate well to film...as long as they don't go casting big-name hollywood actors and pop stars.


Because obviously, people who have acquired fame and fortune couldn't possibly have any musical talent.
Aimee

Some do some don't they are so consrcuted that it's often hard to tell. I agree that big name Hollywood actors or pop stars who were cast just because of their name and their star power would be bad for any Les Mis movie. If they have talent then fine. Smile
suzie_chan

There was once that link posted on one of the Les Mis forums:

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/les%20miserables%20hits%20hollywood
The Very Angry Woman

That link looks familiar. Hey, perhaps I posted it on page 1!
Eponine_Fantine

The Very Angry Woman wrote:
Eponine_Fantine wrote:
I think Les Mis could translate well to film...as long as they don't go casting big-name hollywood actors and pop stars.


Because obviously, people who have acquired fame and fortune couldn't possibly have any musical talent.


Sorry, I didn't mean they shouldn't cast them at all. I just meant that they shouldn't cast people with no talent just to bring in people to see the movie.
Fantine

Big stars would mean more publicity for Les Mis though... And more fans and appreciation. That is a nice thing.
RyanJ

I hope if it is made that it will be good, this is one of my favorite shows without a doubt.

On that note, it might encourage tacky, low-budget performances. Like a Les Miserables: Student Edition:Junior or something. Evil or Very Mad
Orestes Fasting

Fantine wrote:
Big stars would mean more publicity for Les Mis though... And more fans and appreciation. That is a nice thing.


Not if the fans are rabid Eppie-boppers who are only in it because "omg [name] was in it and s/he's soooo hot!" Come on, LM is one of the few fandoms where braindead brats are actually the minority--do you really want another Phantom fandom? *shudder*

At any rate, acting and singing talent are way more important than publicity, fans, and appreciation. Especially since LM is already a household name--it doesn't need the publicity, so I'd prefer if they went for quality over star power.
Ulla Dance Again!

^ Same here. I mean, I'd much rather have a very talented 'unknown' actor in the role of Eponine or Marius than a star. Look at Phantom of the Opera -- Gerad Butler as the Phantom? It just didn't work.
The Very Angry Woman

Ulla Dance Again! wrote:
^ Same here. I mean, I'd much rather have a very talented 'unknown' actor in the role of Eponine or Marius than a star. Look at Phantom of the Opera -- Gerad Butler as the Phantom? It just didn't work.


Since when was Gerard Butler "known" or a "star" before the Phantom movie? (Or even after?)
Ulla Dance Again!

I was just saying he wasn't fit for the role, that's all. I mean, it made him a star...but before that he was in a few other films, I think. What I was getting at is that I would have someone who's a TALENTED unknown actor be in Les Mis. Talented as in not only being a great actor but being able to sing (and sing on key). With the case of Gerad, he was a good actor but his vocals did not do the role any justice whatsoever.
olly

Gerard Butler has been in quite a few movies since 1997. There are a fair amount that I recognise. But I wouldn't call him a star per se:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0124930/

Aimee

No no no, please not him. he ruined the role of the Phantom by his shouting. I'd be really pissed off if they got him to do it.
olly

Don't get me wrong, I don't want him to do it, just pointing out his resume
Ulla Dance Again!

olly wrote:
Gerard Butler has been in quite a few movies since 1997. There are a fair amount that I recognise. But I wouldn't call him a star per se:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0124930/




Yea, neither would I... though POTO did suddenly create a whole wave of GB/Phantom fangirls. But that's not the same as say, Johnny Depp in POTC, really.


I'm with you Aimee, I'd be pissed off too. Especially if they cast him as Javert *shudder* God, that's not even funny....
Orestes Fasting

Ulla Dance Again! wrote:
I'm with you Aimee, I'd be pissed off too. Especially if they cast him as Javert *shudder* God, that's not even funny....


How'sabout as Grantaire? He's got the voice for it, after all.

--oh wait, that would make hawt!R quasi-canon. Shoot me now.
La Carmagnole

Orestes Fasting wrote:
Ulla Dance Again! wrote:
I'm with you Aimee, I'd be pissed off too. Especially if they cast him as Javert *shudder* God, that's not even funny....


How'sabout as Grantaire? He's got the voice for it, after all.

--oh wait, that would make hawt!R quasi-canon. Shoot me now.


I'm with you as well. If he's casted, I'll run out the cinema crying.

Casted as Grantaire... that's scary Rolling Eyes
suzie_chan

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I'm with you Aimee, I'd be pissed off too. Especially if they cast him as Javert *shudder* God, that's not even funny....


....it's tragic.

GB would not be a good Javert:

-he's too young
-his voice doesn't fit the role
-he doesn't even bare a slightest characteristic!!

My personal favourite would be Terrance Mann...or Philip Quast
Ulla Dance Again!

Phillip Quast is Javert. End of story. Laughing

He's just so great at playing that role... though I will admit when I saw Les Mis with my mom, the guy playing the part of Javert was pretty damn good.
paiintmeblue

Ulla Dance Again! wrote:
Phillip Quast is Javert. End of story. Laughing

He's just so great at playing that role... though I will admit when I saw Les Mis with my mom, the guy playing the part of Javert was pretty damn good.


i agree, he's amaazing.
i heard about the les mis movie too. and about the people campaigning for emmy rossum for cosette. oh please, no.
i think it could be made into a good movie, with the right director and cast. i'll definitely go see it if they decide to make it.
as long as it's better than the les mis film with liam neeson and geoffrey rush..
olly

All I want is Philip Quast as Javert. That's all. I don't have as much demand for the other roles Very Happy
Timmy_Wishes he was Quast

Sean Kinglsy as ValJean *Prays* "God on high hear my prayer let sean be the JVJ heir..."
The Very Angry Woman

Timmy_Wishes he was Quast wrote:
Sean Kinglsy as ValJean


Kingsley.

Valjean.
Timmy_Wishes he was Quast

Once again i can only thank god that the walking talking dictionary known as TVAW is about to save me embaressment from those spelling errors that people would be unable to look around...*phew*
Aimee

Timmy_Wishes he was Quast wrote:
Sean Kinglsy as ValJean *Prays* "God on high hear my prayer let sean be the JVJ heir..."
Jeff Leyton

Very Happy

*swipes Timmy and runs away*
Timmy_Wishes he was Quast

HOW VERY DARE YOU!!!! *chases amiee...*
flying_pigs

JOJ FOREVER!
Aimee

*Throws custard pie at Timmy and yells Jeff is GOD!!*
Timmy_Wishes he was Quast

BAH!!...the plus side to this is i love custard!
Etoile

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I think Les Mis could translate well to film...as long as they don't go casting big-name hollywood actors and pop stars.


As long as they don't put Hillary Duff in it, I'd be fine with that.

I personally would love it if they made a Les Mis musical movie. True, the theater version would be better but the fact remains that not everyone has the opportunity to see those performances. The only thing I'd insist on is that they use Philip Quast as Javert...but that probably wouldn't happen. Shame.

Oh yes...I would be quite angry if they took out any part of it to make it shorter.
Gavroche Girly

The movie should only be produced if-

A] It is true to the musical as much as possible!

B] There are no added scenes that through off the original plot

C] ALL Broadway music is included

D] Some chosen Broadway cast members are included in the Hollywood cast
The Very Angry Woman

Not this again.
Fantine

I second that.

Yet I do realise that I have been here for too long and seen every discussion at least 3 times already... But still.
Andy

When movie musicals are good, they're very very good. Chicago made an excellent film for example. Phantom could have but it was very badly done.

The ups of doing a film are obviously widening the accessibility of the show. I loved it since the 10th Anniversary Concert, but only managed to get to see it last year, mainly because of the cost involved with getting on a train, going to london, paying the ticket prices to see it properly etc.

It's sequences like "One Day More" that'll be a problem. The Tonight Ensemble in West Side Story wasn't anything like as powerful on film as it is on stage, just because you can't do it without the cheesy cutting the screen in half or always missing at least one person's performance. And the barricade is always going to be much more impressive on stage than if it were just an actual barricade.

Has anyone contemplated how a filmed for television production might work? It's doing very well for opera and the Oklahoma one with Hugh Jackman and Maureen Lipman was excellent.
AndrewShatterhand

I think that the best way to do it would to film the stage show, as Andy said, especially after seeing some pro-shot clips on YouTube. I think it could even have a theatrical release.

With that being said, I wouldn't mind a cinematic adaption as long as it's in the right hands and those hands respect the source material. I've even written two drafts for a Les Miserables film adaption, just for fun. I think I've succeeced in capturing the essence of the stage show while still making it cinematic. I'm planning on writing a third draft sometime in the fall, after I see the show during the revival. Maybe I'll post it then.
eponine5

I've thought a bit about how a film version could be done too.
As much as I'd like it to stay completely true to the stage version, they will have to change some things. Can you imagine what it would be like if Gavroche started singing idrectly to the camera and saying 'ow do you do my name's Gavroche!'
One idea I had for that was that maybe he could be speaking to his two brats
AndrewShatterhand

eponine5 wrote:
I've thought a bit about how a film version could be done too.
As much as I'd like it to stay completely true to the stage version, they will have to change some things. Can you imagine what it would be like if Gavroche started singing idrectly to the camera and saying 'ow do you do my name's Gavroche!'
One idea I had for that was that maybe he could be speaking to his two brats


In my two drafts, he is addressing a crowd.
musicallover09

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C] ALL Broadway music is included
i dont think that would be possible... if im right (i havent seen the show but i have listened to the music and love it) its all singing... just like with phantom... unless you did like the new oklahoma or cats... well... thats my two cents
AndrewShatterhand

musicallover09 wrote:
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C] ALL Broadway music is included
i dont think that would be possible... if im right (i havent seen the show but i have listened to the music and love it) its all singing... just like with phantom... unless you did like the new oklahoma or cats... well... thats my two cents


As much as I love the complete score, it just wouldn't be possible to include it all in a motion picture for reasons of time contraints and pacing. It's not the fact that it's all sung that is the problem.
musicallover09

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musicallover09 wrote:
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C] ALL Broadway music is included
i dont think that would be possible... if im right (i havent seen the show but i have listened to the music and love it) its all singing... just like with phantom... unless you did like the new oklahoma or cats... well... thats my two cents


As much as I love the complete score, it just wouldn't be possible to include it all in a motion picture for reasons of time contraints and pacing. It's not the fact that it's all sung that is the problem.


but you also have to think realistically if you arent going to do a mda for t.v. stage thing you cnat have it all sung the audience wont respond... that is why i want them to make like the new oklahoma it was very new and i think that if we did it that way more people will accept it and thats what i hate aobut rent it came along with all these "rent heads" who saw the movie one time and when you mention it they say "i love that movie" those kind of people jsut burn me...
AndrewShatterhand

musicallover09 wrote:
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musicallover09 wrote:
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C] ALL Broadway music is included
i dont think that would be possible... if im right (i havent seen the show but i have listened to the music and love it) its all singing... just like with phantom... unless you did like the new oklahoma or cats... well... thats my two cents


As much as I love the complete score, it just wouldn't be possible to include it all in a motion picture for reasons of time contraints and pacing. It's not the fact that it's all sung that is the problem.


but you also have to think realistically if you arent going to do a mda for t.v. stage thing you cnat have it all sung the audience wont respond... that is why i want them to make like the new oklahoma it was very new and i think that if we did it that way more people will accept it and thats what i hate aobut rent it came along with all these "rent heads" who saw the movie one time and when you mention it they say "i love that movie" those kind of people jsut burn me...


I'm not really sure what you're trying to say in the latter part of your post but I think that if you replace singing with talking it would seem awkward and eliminate some of the key moments in the story. I prefer the integrity of the story, film over what the audience responds to.
musicallover09

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I prefer the integrity of the story, film over what the audience responds to.

i agree im very confusing... i would love a movie version of phantom with no speaking...
eponine5

AndrewShatterhand wrote:

As much as I love the complete score, it just wouldn't be possible to include it all in a motion picture for reasons of time contraints and pacing. It's not the fact that it's all sung that is the problem.


I actually think that the initial words and the music that goes along with it would not have to be changed at all, after all, who knows what could be lost with just a 'few cuts'? And it wouldn't end up that long, since there would of course be no applause to take up ten extra minutes and there wouldn't be an interval either. And there have been so many other films of musicals that are just as long as it could ever be.
Andy

If you bring speech in you take away what makes Les Mis�rables the important part of the development of musical theatre it is.

Though it probably has it's roots in the Frenc movie musical "The Umbrellas of Cherbourg" (an excellent movie musical that is through-sung - first time) rather than in opera, Les Mis is, as far as I'm aware, the first through-sung musical and it paved the way for an era of "super-musicals" that are by definition operas, but termed as musicals because they are part of popular rather than classical culture. "Chess" was there before but has siginificant passages of lib with underscore, whereas Les Mis is completely sung, and when there is speech ("They're getting ready to attack" or "Troops behind them, fifty men or more") it's still in metre, not prose. To add speech is to destroy the concept.

Fully-sung movies have worked (Zefferelli's La Traviata for example). Les Mis works because there's no opening show-stopping chorus number, you're straight away sucked into the world where every single moment of music until I Dreamed a Dream moves the plot (that's the first real aria or song in terms of it's reflection/reminiscence and enclosed form) so you'll probably find that a lot of people won't notice until the end (being no interval) that actually they sang all the way through.

Sorry if I got a bit music student-ish!!
Colle

AndrewShatterhand wrote:
eponine5 wrote:
I've thought a bit about how a film version could be done too.
As much as I'd like it to stay completely true to the stage version, they will have to change some things. Can you imagine what it would be like if Gavroche started singing idrectly to the camera and saying 'ow do you do my name's Gavroche!'
One idea I had for that was that maybe he could be speaking to his two brats


In my two drafts, he is addressing a crowd.


In a film version, I would picture him either addressing a crowd or some of the students.
Jordan

eponine5 wrote:
And there have been so many other films of musicals that are just as long as it could ever be.


Indeed, The Sound Of Music film runs for a little over 2 hours 40; the length of Les Mis as it currently stands...
AndrewShatterhand

eponine5 wrote:
AndrewShatterhand wrote:

As much as I love the complete score, it just wouldn't be possible to include it all in a motion picture for reasons of time contraints and pacing. It's not the fact that it's all sung that is the problem.


I actually think that the initial words and the music that goes along with it would not have to be changed at all, after all, who knows what could be lost with just a 'few cuts'? And it wouldn't end up that long, since there would of course be no applause to take up ten extra minutes and there wouldn't be an interval either. And there have been so many other films of musicals that are just as long as it could ever be.


I think the problem would be more pacing then time constraints. There's a big difference between watching three hours of singing on screen and watching three hours of singing on stage, although I wouldn't have a problem with it.

There are, in my opinion, one or two extraneous songs in Les Miserables that could be cut for a film version, and are in my drafts that I wrote.
Etoile

Andy wrote:

It's sequences like "One Day More" that'll be a problem.


Actually I'm looking forward to seeing how that one is done. Valjean could be packing his bags (and the candlesticks of course), Enjolras and the students could be in the caf� then out in the streets rallying the people, Eponine could be...anywhere really, Javert could be either (a) talking to fellow policemen about his plans or (b) putting on his revolutionary attire then walking to where the students are rallying, and the Th�nardiers could be...in the sewers maybe?

It's the part where they all sing together that could be the problem. Unless they all end up in the same street or something while they sing the last notes...but that would be weird. And I have no idea how they'll fit the red flag into all this.
eponine5

One of my ideas for One Day More was that when they are all singing together there could be different headshots on the screen, over teh main picture, maybe of the student marching through the streets, kind of like what they did for part of the 10th Anniversary DVD.
Orestes Fasting

The other option for everyone singing together in One Day More would be to take the view away from the main characters entirely. Take it out to a panorama view of Paris and the riots getting underway or something. It's far from ideal, but probably less cheesy than the split-screen that would be required to show everyone singing together. (Showing city-wide revolt would have the added benefit of fewer people asking "So why the hell are they barricading themselves in a dead-end street waiting for the army to come get them?")
flying_pigs

Etoile wrote:
Andy wrote:

It's sequences like "One Day More" that'll be a problem.


Actually I'm looking forward to seeing how that one is done. Valjean could be packing his bags (and the candlesticks of course), Enjolras and the students could be in the caf� then out in the streets rallying the people, Eponine could be...anywhere really, Javert could be either (a) talking to fellow policemen about his plans or (b) putting on his revolutionary attire then walking to where the students are rallying, and the Th�nardiers could be...in the sewers maybe?

It's the part where they all sing together that could be the problem. Unless they all end up in the same street or something while they sing the last notes...but that would be weird. And I have no idea how they'll fit the red flag into all this.


lol I adore you avatar, where did you get it?
Etoile

flying_pigs wrote:
lol I adore you avatar, where did you get it?


http://homepage3.nifty.com/jv/heartcan/

The site is in Japanese but if you click all the links you can find a ton of Les Mis sprites.
Jemibub

I've been writing a screenplay for les mis (for fun) for the past two years (including 7 months of writer's block); One day more was one of the more confusing scenes; but, I think I made it work with different scene shots and cut to's.

This is what I did for One Day More ((first draft; for now))

http://www.angelfire.com/musicals/mizziemoo/onedaymore.htm
Aimee

Hi Jemibub *waves*

I like it.

Some of the cuts are very fast aren't they? [I'm symapthising here not criticising.] I would like to try and find a way to avoid as many cutys as possible if I were directing it. For eg I think that in post production you could have a disolve on the screen and have the over laps of things like Eponine on her own, Marius and Cosette together and perhaps have a camera move up to Valjean on the balcony rather than a cut for eg. Also a camera move to The Thenardiers down below in the sewers rather than a cut, but these are just how I see it. [I have written bits of the screen play too but never got as far as One Day More]
convict24601

Actually... a neat little idea for the Thenardiers' scene. Perhaps while all the students are going through the streets, they could be climbing down into the sewers (unnoticed) and conversating about what they plan on doing? I don't know if this is clear, but hopefully you get what I'm saying?

Also perhaps instead of Eponine walking on the streets alone, she could be overhearing what Cosette and Marius are saying (like during A Heart Full of Love) and then she sits on the pavement... then later on she's walking by herself.

Excellent screenplay, by the way Smile please post more.
Jemibub

I have the full screenplay written; just going back and re-writting some details and adding more in arears were needed.

When you really think about it; cut to's and camera pans are really up to the director chosen. Most directors will turn down a screenplay if there's not much room for them to play around with.

Thinking now that I should just take out the cut to's and leave that up to.

But, what I'm now thinking is that One Day more cold take place at the Champs Elys�es. Where about 12 different streets intersect. One group is walking down one street, another down another street, etc. Then, right before when they reach the intersection is when the singing overlaps. They are still on their seperate streets; as to not be able to see the others. The camera pans away to get a full shot of everyone.


That link was just a rough draft; always re-writing. lol
Jemibub

I also noticed that in Les Mis; more often than not, the characters are singing to the audience rather than directly to the the character opposit them. When writing this screenplay I had to find ways for the characters to seem as they are not talking directly to the audience.

This is evident is ACT 1. If you don't Syd Field's Paradigm.


ACT 1(the beginning)((pages1-20 on average)......................ACT2(the action)((page 21-60 on average))......................ACT3(the resolution)((page 61-90 on average))

ACT 1: The Prologue-What Have I Done


ACT1: http://www.angelfire.com/musicals/mizziemoo/lesmisact1.htm ((format when screwy in HTML format))
Colle

I am interested in reading more of your screen play, Jemibub.
Jemibub

thanks Very Happy It might take a while because I'm going through each scene adding small stuff here and there.

ACT 2 will most likely be posted in 4 parts.

PartA: At The End of the Day - Fantine's Death
PartB: Confrontation - Eponin's Errand
PartC: Red and Black - One Day More
PartD: At The Barricade - The Final Battle


then...

ACT3: Dogs eat Dog - Finale

I'll try and get them up as soon as possible Very Happy
AndrewShatterhand

That's a very interesting layout. Quite different from mine, which is surprising being that we're using the same source material Razz

Mine goes something like this....

ACT 1- Prologue- Thenardiers
ACT 2- Paris- Javert's Suicide
ACT 3- Empty Chairs at Empty Tables- Finale

Perhaps I'll share mine sooner or later. It would be interesting to compare the two.
Jemibub

My lay out:

Plot Points are areas in screenplay where an action happens that spins the story in another direction. ((usually only 2 PlotPoints))

ACT1: Prologue - What Have I Done ((Act1 is always considered the beginning and usually 10-20 mins to explains the backstory and get the audience used to the characters)) Plot Point 1 happens when Valjean rips up his ticket-of-leave; leading him to a new life.

ACT 2 At The End of the Day - The Final Battle ((At the end of the day, to me, starts off the actual story; then, it ends with the climatic battle of the final battle)) ... Plot Point 2 happens when the battle takes place; all the students stood for ends when they die. The characters that the audience grew to love throughout ACT2 die. The story can only be resolved and come to an end afterward.

ACT3: Dogs eat Dog - Finale ---------- The story goes downhill (in a good-way); it is resolved.
Jemibub

ACT II part A: http://www.angelfire.com/musicals/mizziemoo/ACTIIa.htm

At the End of the end of the day - Fantine's Death.
AndrewShatterhand

Very interesting!

I've decided to post my prologue, I haven't decided if I will post the rest yet. I'll probably wait till after I complete my next draft if I do.

http://www.freewebs.com/a13erger/prologue.htm

That's from my second draft, dated 4/7/06.
Jemibub

I have to make one point. Camera movements. I'd advice not to add them into the screenplay. If there is enough detail to back the story up; the director would chose camera angles that would best benifet the actual finished product. Very Happy

otherwise; it's a very good screenplay Very Happy
AndrewShatterhand

Jemibub wrote:
I have to make one point. Camera movements. I'd advice not to add them into the screenplay. If there is enough detail to back the story up; the director would chose camera angles that would best benifet the actual finished product. Very Happy

otherwise; it's a very good screenplay Very Happy


Thank you very much for the comments.

About the camera movements, I've always included them in my screenplays because I just think it makes it feel more real and since this is my "dream" film I suppose, I would be the director so I include them for myself to follow. Wink
Jemibub

Lol, I get what you're saying; maybe have a second draft if one day down the line (very unlikey) that you choose not to direct.

...hint if you choose not to direct... before sending you screenplay to directors; have a lawyer type up a contract that includes you in all decision making. That's my backup plan Very Happy
AndrewShatterhand

Jemibub wrote:
Lol, I get what you're saying; maybe have a second draft if one day down the line (very unlikey) that you choose not to direct.

...hint if you choose not to direct... before sending you screenplay to directors; have a lawyer type up a contract that includes you in all decision making. That's my backup plan Very Happy


Thanks for the tips Smile
Jemibub

Very Happy

ACT2 part B: http://www.angelfire.com/musicals/mizziemoo/actIIb.htm

Confrontation - Eponine's Errand.
Etoile

AndrewShatterhand wrote:
Very interesting!

I've decided to post my prologue, I haven't decided if I will post the rest yet. I'll probably wait till after I complete my next draft if I do.

http://www.freewebs.com/a13erger/prologue.htm

That's from my second draft, dated 4/7/06.


Very nice! Just one thing. Javert wasn't an inspector while he was a prison gaurd. He became an inspector later on.
AndrewShatterhand

Etoile wrote:
AndrewShatterhand wrote:
Very interesting!

I've decided to post my prologue, I haven't decided if I will post the rest yet. I'll probably wait till after I complete my next draft if I do.

http://www.freewebs.com/a13erger/prologue.htm

That's from my second draft, dated 4/7/06.


Very nice! Just one thing. Javert wasn't an inspector while he was a prison gaurd. He became an inspector later on.


Ah yes! A minor detail I overlooked, thank you for pointing it out!
eponine5

I really liked the way you began the film, AndrewShatterhand, especially the part with the french flag and Victor Hugo's famous words. Jean Valjean is around 45/6 when he is given his ticket of leave though. But otherwise, it is very good. I like the small details. I wonder if Sir Cameron Mackintosh has found a director yet....
Jemibub

I almost put a small VICTOR HUGO Narrative in my screenplay; I had put it on the coverpage instead.

"Will the future ever arrive? ... Should we continue to look upwards? Is the light we can see in the sky one of those presently extinguished? The ideal is terrifying to behold, lost as it is in the depths, small, isolated, a pin-point, brilliant but threatened on all sides by the dark forces that surround it' nevertheless, no more danger than a star in the jaws of a cloud"
---------VICTOR HUGO

ACT 2:
part a: http://www.angelfire.com/musicals/mizziemoo/ACTIIa.htm
part b: http://www.angelfire.com/musicals/mizziemoo/actIIb.htm
part c: http://www.angelfire.com/musicals/mizziemoo/actIIc.htm
part d: http://www.angelfire.com/musicals/mizziemoo/actIId.htm
Jemibub

Finally



ACT 1:
http://www.angelfire.com/musicals/mizziemoo/lesmisact1.html

ACT 2:
part a: http://www.angelfire.com/musicals/mizziemoo/ACTIIa.htm
part b: http://www.angelfire.com/musicals/mizziemoo/actIIb.htm
part c: http://www.angelfire.com/musicals/mizziemoo/actIIc.htm
part d: http://www.angelfire.com/musicals/mizziemoo/actIId.htm

ACT 3:
part d: http://www.angelfire.com/musicals/mizziemoo/actIII.htm
AndrewShatterhand

I haven't gotten a chance to read your whole screenplay(hopefully I'll get a chance to read it in it's entirety in the next few days) but I just read how you did the finale because that's a scene that I've always been curious how others would do it.

The way I did it is that only Fantine's spirit is present at Valjean's deathbed (besides Marius and Cosette of course) but then the screen fades to white on the line "To love another person is to see the face of God" and the DYHtPS? reprisal begins there. The screen then fades to the ABC Cafe(or what looks like it) where the students who died begin materializing in their chairs as the choir grows and at the tables, as if they were still alive on earth and then those such as Valjean, Fantine, and Eponine appear and join them in the choir. I've debated whether or not to include Javert in this scene. By including him, it shows that everything is forgiven in the next life but I'm not sure if it fits in.

I really liked what you did with the camera moving through the different areas and eventually back to the letter, where the credits would start. That's a really cool.
Jemibub

Thanks

In another version I'm thinking of. right when the DYHTPS reprise begins the screen fades to the barricade; the ghosts materializing there. Then when the camera pans it goes over everything; even the seine where you see Javert's hat floating. And I'm keeping the credits/letter lol Very Happy and then at the end of the credits the letter folds.
Etoile

This is just my opinion, but I really think Javert should be included in the last scene. Otherwise he's sort of labeled as the bad guy which, anyone who has read the book knows, he most definately is not. And besides, he helped Valjean and Marius in the end.
convict24601

Excellent screenplay!

I'm on short time here but I just wanted to make a quick suggestion. In the beggers at the feast scene, You should include Mme Thenardier helping herself to the silverware. It would be funny to have her doing thins while Marius and Thenardier are talking, and while Thenardier is speaking Marius tries to turn around (towards the silverware) but Thenardier steps in his way or pulls him aside.

Mme. Thenardier heads over to the reception table. She beams as she stares at the silverware in front of her. The picks up a platter and dumps the pastries on the platter onto the floor. She stuffs the platter in her dress, casually, then continues to help herself to silverware.)

(Marius and Thenardier Diolougue.)

Maruis turns around to grab a pastry. Thenardier blocks Marius and pulls him away from the sweet table. He glares at Maruis with ice cold eyes.

Thenardier
One thing more.
(Sternly)
Mark this well
It was the night that the barricade fell.


Ok i got a little carried away there lol but just a little idea. Very Happy
Andy

Etoile wrote:
This is just my opinion, but I really think Javert should be included in the last scene. Otherwise he's sort of labeled as the bad guy which, anyone who has read the book knows, he most definately is not. And besides, he helped Valjean and Marius in the end.


But he committed suicide, certainly one of the greatest sins according to many God-fearing people.
Jemibub

Nor was he killed at the barricade; ok neither was Fantine, but she was there to help Valjean. That's why all you see of javert, in my script, is his hat floating down the seine.
Lazarus (Adam G)

That's some nice stuff, there.

But I must agree with Etoile; Javert is more of an antagonist rather than a villan; add him in the last scene!
Etoile

Whatever the ending is like, I just hope that in the musical movie they don't do to Javert what they did to him in the 1998 movie. Rolling Eyes
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