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Mistress

Who Would You Like to See Play...

This is mainly so I can see ifI get eaten alive for suggesting that SJB would make a good Fantine...I'd also like to see Canadian actor Colm Feore play Valjean (he'd probably be a better Javert, but he's a tenor, so it ain't gonna happen.)

Anyway, what your guys ideas about what actors you'd like to see play your favourite parts?
mastachen

Maybe we already had a thread about this?

But I would love to see Hugh Jackman as Javert and Nathan Lane as Thernardier.
Kragey

mastachen wrote:
...and Nathan Lane as Thernardier.


I think Nathan Lane could rock the funny-over-evil portrayal of Thenardier. Not so sure about Hugh Jackman, though I'd love to see him in Les Mis.

SUTTON FOSTER FOR EVERY FEMALE ROLE. </fangirl>
erinmylungs

I would love to see Hugh Jackman in Les Mis. He was amazing in Oklahoma. I've only seen clips from the London production but when he sang "Oh What A Beautiful Morning," there was a little bit of drool on my chin. We watched part of it at my Thespian Conferene in a Musical Theatre History workshop. :]

Oh, and on another note, I just borrowed the Les Mis In Concert VHS tape from my school library. YAY! *squee*
lesmisloony

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Nathan Lane as Thernardier.

...because Gary Beach's finger dance wasn't goofy enough?

Why is Thenardier such a Shakespearean clown?

Why am I so crabby about that today?

...I s'pose you should just ignore me. Carry on.
Kragey

lesmisloony wrote:

Why is Thenardier such a Shakespearean clown?


1. He isn't always. Sometimes he's more evil than funny.

2. Many of Shakespeare's clowns, like my beloved Feste, are actually the dispatchers of great wisdom and/or monologues.

3. It's probably to provide some comic relief, because otherwise, the show is 98% sad.
Trevor reincarnate

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Mistress

Trevor reincarnate wrote:
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Wow! I'm glad someone else agrees with me...it is a good point though, about Fantine only being on for 20 min....oh well, I would still love to see SJB play Fantine!

I have the Pirate Queen Cast Recording, and SJb is incredible on there. Wicked is really a terrible example of her range (Those high notes she hits in Pirate Queen are amazing!).

Yeah, SJB is one of my current obsessions Mr. Green (you can tell, obviously)
mastachen

I think Nathan Lane is versatile enough to balance funny and evil.


Bernadette Peters as Madame T?
lesmisloony

Wow. Bernadette Peters, eh? At first, I was like, "NO!" but then... I thought about it... and I think that's kind of awesome...
Glissando

I'd LOVE to see myself as Cosette. Anyone for seconds?
lesmisloony

If we're not talking musical, I've been slowly compiling an ideal movie cast. However, so far it's only up to... uhh... two.

Cosette: Virginie Ledoyen, the girl who played her in the creepy French 2000 miniseries. She's my favourite film Cosette so far. She's very pretty, but not some kind of diva Barbie. A great actress, and a very plain sort of pretty. I dunno. She was my favourite part of that miniseries.

Enjolras: Joe Anderson. I saw him in Across the Universe, and Enj was all I could think of. But maybe it's just because he's a hot blond.

Ahem. There you go.

I'm also currently VERY fond of Frederic March as Valjean, but once again, it's really only because he's hot. Ish. So.
jackissensational

mastachen wrote:
I think Nathan Lane is versatile enough to balance funny and evil.


Bernadette Peters as Madame T?


That role is so different from Peters's others, but I love it! I don't know what it is but I think that's great!
Kragey

I was trying to avoid mentioning Bernadette Peters or Anthonly Warlow, since I'd be totally biased, even more so than I am with Sutton Foster.
Fantine

I've said it once and I've said it twice but the only Javert for me is Alan Rickman. Forget the part that he's 60 something and (although he can sing) he probably can't sing well enough.
Mistress

Fantine wrote:
I've said it once and I've said it twice but the only Javert for me is Alan Rickman. Forget the part that he's 60 something and (although he can sing) he probably can't sing well enough.


He actually did a good job as Judge Turpin in Sweeney Todd, minus the straining on high notes. I think he'd make a wonderful Javert, but I'm not sure if he has the right range, I think so though, as both the Judge and Javert are basically baritone/bass parts (I think...Javert could very well be straight bass).
Sweeney Hyde

Mistress wrote:
Fantine wrote:
I've said it once and I've said it twice but the only Javert for me is Alan Rickman. Forget the part that he's 60 something and (although he can sing) he probably can't sing well enough.


He actually did a good job as Judge Turpin in Sweeney Todd, minus the straining on high notes. I think he'd make a wonderful Javert, but I'm not sure if he has the right range, I think so though, as both the Judge and Javert are basically baritone/bass parts (I think...Javert could very well be straight bass).
The would be about the same range WITH Mea Culpa.
curlyhairedsoprano91

Javert requires a very strong 2-octave range, yes? He needs the low F on "You'll wear a different chaa-AAIN" and a very very powerful high F on "shall his crimes be REPRIEVED." I'm guessing that, since the high F needs to be belted so forcefully, you'd at least need a good baritone as opposed to a bass.

Or maybe I've been spoiled by Philip Quast?

Love,
Cosette
Fantine

Mistress wrote:
Fantine wrote:
I've said it once and I've said it twice but the only Javert for me is Alan Rickman. Forget the part that he's 60 something and (although he can sing) he probably can't sing well enough.


He actually did a good job as Judge Turpin in Sweeney Todd, minus the straining on high notes. I think he'd make a wonderful Javert, but I'm not sure if he has the right range, I think so though, as both the Judge and Javert are basically baritone/bass parts (I think...Javert could very well be straight bass).


OMG I cannot believe I MISSED THIS! He plays in Sweeney? Now I definitely have to go see that movie.
mastachen

With Mea Culpa, the judge is seriously left with one song, other than the ballads.


Bringing this back, Brian Stokes Mitchell as Javert, Marin Mazzie as Fantine, Lea Michele as Eponine (so close!), Judy Kaye as Madame T.

(I've listening to the Ragtime cast recording right night.)
curlyhairedsoprano91

Has William Solo played Valjean? Because if he hasn't, he'd be amazing.

I'd like to see either Warlow or Maguire take a crack at Javert.
Monsieur D'Arque

Once again, my dream movie cast for Les Miserables

Javert: Alan Rickman/Kevin Kline
Valjean: Hugh Jackman
Bishop: Colm Wilkinson
Fantine: Bernadette Peters
Thenardier: Johnny Depp/Jason Alexander/Nathan Lane
Mme. Thenardier: Helena Bonham Carter (not a very strong singer, but her pseudo-drunken, burned-out delivery works well for Mme. T.)
Enjolras: Ewan McGregor (or, if they really want to drag in the kids, a de-makeupped Gerard Way)
Marius: Josh Groban
Cosette: Charlotte Church
Eponine: Lauren Ambrose
Gavroche: Ed Sanders
curlyhairedsoprano91

Ooh, I like Jason Alexander as Thenardier very very much!

You know ... I could also see Kelsey Grammer as Javert. Call me crazy, but he has such a powerful presence and singing voice. Yeah, I like that.
Quique

curlyhairedsoprano91 wrote:
Has William Solo played Valjean? Because if he hasn't, he'd be amazing.



Yes. He played Valjean in the original Los Angeles company (2nd national tour). Though by the time I saw that production, he had left and Jordan Bennett replaced him.

He also did the role in the 3rd national tour during the mid 90's. Not sure if he ever did Broadway.
inspectordickon

I think Mandy Patinkin could do a great Valjean. He's got a unique voice that could totally work for the part. SJB would be a knockout Fantine, but for some reason I can also see Idina Menzel in the role. Michael Cerveris for Javert, perhaps?
Sweeney Hyde

ooo...I think Mandy would be a great Valjean!

I can't see Ceveris being Javert though.
Mistress

Yeah, I don't think Cerveris has the range for Javert. Mark Jacoby on the other hand...

Or how about Patti LuPone as Mme T. *hides from LuPone haters*

Someone mentioned Idina Menzal as Fantine...I could see her more as Eponine.

How about Lauren Molina from the Sweeney Todd revival as Cossette?

I also like Judy Kaye as Mme T.

or Angela Lansbury as Mmme T?
mastachen

Patti Lupone wouldn't want the part of Madame T. She'll think it's too small for her.


Angela Lansbury is old. I can't see Idina Menzel as Eponine actually.

Nobody else sees Brian Stokes Mitchell as Javert? I was congratulating myself on how clever I was for coming up with that.

Emma Williams as Cosette, and in my fantasy dream cast, Marissa McGowan needs a lead. Maybe as Eponine.

Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't Jason Alexander already play Thernardier at one point?
kittengoespop

mastachen wrote:

Nobody else sees Brian Stokes Mitchell as Javert? I was congratulating myself on how clever I was for coming up with that.


You're right. That would be brilliant.
EponineMNFF

The idea of Idina Menzel as Eponine is like physical pain to me. x_x

I'd be up for giving Marissa McGowan a lead! She deserves it!

Haha Patti LuPone would be a great Mme. T, but she'd never take it.
Mistress

mastachen wrote:

Angela Lansbury is old. I can't see Idina Menzel as Eponine actually.


She may be old, but she's still kickin'. I don't see why she couldn't do a quick stint as Madame T before she kicks the bucket.

I guess Menzel wouldn't be the best choice for Eponine, but it's still better than her playing Fantine XP

I dunno if she's still alive, but I think Hermione Gingold would make a good Madame T as well.

Jeremy Irons would be a killer Javert.

How about this for The Worst Cast Ever: Kristin Chenoweth as Cosette XD
lesmisloony

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How about this for The Worst Cast Ever: Kristin Chenoweth as Cosette XD

*twitchdies*

Laughing
mastachen

EponineMNFF wrote:
The idea of Idina Menzel as Eponine is like physical pain to me. x_x

I'd be up for giving Marissa McGowan a lead! She deserves it!

Haha Patti LuPone would be a great Mme. T, but she'd never take it.



Thanks for agreeing and repeating everything I said! Laughing
EponineMNFF

mastachen wrote:
EponineMNFF wrote:
The idea of Idina Menzel as Eponine is like physical pain to me. x_x

I'd be up for giving Marissa McGowan a lead! She deserves it!

Haha Patti LuPone would be a great Mme. T, but she'd never take it.



Thanks for agreeing and repeating everything I said! Laughing


Hahaha yeahhhhh I did just completely repeat it. And I'm doing that now. Though I did want to point out that I actually flinched when I thought of Idina as Eponine.

<.< >.> *Tries to add something to make this not spam* Uh....

mastachen is awesome! Woot!
Kragey

Monsieur D'Arque wrote:
Cosette: Charlotte Church


We're talking oldschool Charlotte Church, right? Cause her new stuff and the way she works her voice now...

Mistress wrote:
Jeremy Irons would be a killer Javert.

How about this for The Worst Cast Ever: Kristin Chenoweth as Cosette XD


I'd punch you for the second line if it wasn't for the awesomeness of the first line.
The Very Angry Woman

mastachen wrote:
But I would love to see Hugh Jackman as Javert and Nathan Lane as Thernardier.


Hugh Jackman was actually offered Javert in the 10th anniversary Australian production but turned it down in order to concentrate on his film career.

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Nobody else sees Brian Stokes Mitchell as Javert? I was congratulating myself on how clever I was for coming up with that.


I was really hoping he'd be in the revival, but wasn't surprised he wasn't in it.
mastachen

EponineMNFF wrote:


mastachen is awesome! Woot!




I'll drink to that! Very Happy
bigR

lesmisloony wrote:
If we're not talking musical, I've been slowly compiling an ideal movie cast. However, so far it's only up to... uhh... two.

Cosette: Virginie Ledoyen, the girl who played her in the creepy French 2000 miniseries. She's my favourite film Cosette so far. She's very pretty, but not some kind of diva Barbie. A great actress, and a very plain sort of pretty. I dunno. She was my favourite part of that miniseries.

Enjolras: Joe Anderson. I saw him in Across the Universe, and Enj was all I could think of. But maybe it's just because he's a hot blond.



I also have a very very short ideal cast, but thanks to you I'm a step closer, since I did not have an Enjolras and I quite like yours. First time I hear about Joe Anderson and I don't like him in every pic but he has an "angelic" quality about him. not bad.

I had Natalie Portman as Cosette, but I like Virginie Ledoyen too. They have a similar style.

My Valjean would be Javier Bardem. He has the right body structure and I think that he could perfectly play convict Valjean and older Valjean http://images.google.com/images?q=javier+bardem&hl=es&sourceid=gd&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

For the Th�nardiers: call me crazy but I would love to see Johnny Depp and Elena Bonham carter playing those parts!

and that would be all... i'll keep thinking
Orestes Fasting

Kate Winslet would've made a fantastic Cosette back in the day. A little old for it now, but I wouldn't say no to seeing her as Fantine. (Okay fine, I wouldn't say no to seeing her, period. Purrr.)
lesmisloony

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For the Th�nardiers: call me crazy but I would love to see Johnny Depp and Elena Bonham carter playing those parts!

*bristles*
I think I've done a 360 on Johnny Depp, and now I just don't want to see him in anything. As for HBC, she was so wispy in that painful Sweeney film that I certainly can't see her in a role like Mme T.

But then, in the LM cast I'm slooowly putting together inside my head, I don't really want any super mainstream actors for some reason. So.

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My Valjean would be Javier Bardem.

Shocked I just saw No Country last night, and am currently terrified of Javier Bardem. I know he's an awesome, sweet guy in forreal, but he was INTENSE in NCFOM...

Actually, he really *would* make a pretty great JVJ... Give me a few months to get Anton Chigurh out of my head. And learn him some English. Smile

Or Javert! He would be a pretty acceptable Javert, no?


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Kate Winslet would've made a fantastic Cosette back in the day. A little old for it now, but I wouldn't say no to seeing her as Fantine.

Yeah, I bet Kate Winslet would be a super Fantine! Love that...
Quique

Oh yes. Kate as Fantine would be amazing, especially the way she looks in Finding Neverland.
bigR

lesmisloony wrote:


I think I've done a 360 on Johnny Depp, and now I just don't want to see him in anything. As for HBC, she was so wispy in that painful Sweeney film that I certainly can't see her in a role like Mme T.


We haven't seen the film in europe yet (at least in my corner of europe). I'm disapointed to hear that it isn't any good.


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Shocked I just saw No Country last night, and am currently terrified of Javier Bardem.
Or Javert! He would be a pretty acceptable Javert, no?


Well, yes, he wouldn't be bad. My only little problem with that is that in my mind Javert is a tall slender guy (the only reason being that this is how I saw him 1st time on stage)


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Kate Winslet would've made a fantastic Cosette back in the day. A little old for it now, but I wouldn't say no to seeing her as Fantine.


I like her a lot, but she looks so healthy for fantine!
lesmisloony

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My only little problem with that is that in my mind Javert is a tall slender guy

I checked his intro into the Book, and the only thing it says about that is that he's of "lofty stature."

But check this out:

"The human face of Javert consisted of a flat nose, with two deep nostrils, towards which enormous whiskers ascended on his cheeks. One felt ill at ease when he saw these two forests and these two caverns for the first time. When Javert laughed, -- and his laugh was rare and terrible, -- his thin lips parted and revealed to view not only his teeth, but his gums, and around his nose there formed a flattened and savage fold, as on the muzzle of a wild beast. Javert, serious, was a watch-dog; when he laughed, he was a tiger. As for the rest, he had very little skull and a great deal of jaw; his hair concealed his forehead and fell over his eyebrows; between his eyes there was a permanent, central frown, like an imprint of wrath; his gaze was obscure; his mouth pursed up and terrible; his air that of ferocious command."

(Just make those sideburns bushier in your mind...)
Kragey

bigR wrote:

I like her a lot, but she looks so healthy for fantine!


...well, nobody gets the role just for looking like a skeleton. That's what make-up is for.
lesmisloony

^^I was going to say something like that, but I got really distracted by Javier Bardem. But agreed; makeup is magic. Smile
Fantine

I LOVE Kate Winslet.

She'd make a great Fantine Smile
Mistress

Wow...Bardem is an exact fit for the description of Javert...another actor who I think could do Javert would be Hugh Laurie...if he weren't such a fantastic comedian...maybe he'd be a better Thenardier. (And for the doubters, last nights episode of House, with him singing Christmas carols proves that he does indeed have singing capabilities)
bigR

so, we all more or less agree about people like kate winslet, ledoyen, bardem...

I don't know what you think about it, but for me the most dificult character to cast is definitely enjolras. I have a mental image of every character that more or less fits the novel and the musical at the same time, but in the case of enjolras I have 2 separate mental images.
If I'm thinking about the book I see this pretty boy with blond hair, angelic look and delicate features, a bit cold and distant and almost feminine in a way.
But if I think about the musical I see a dark haired guy, with a much more masculine appearence and a warm energy.

I kind of believe that for casting directors it must be a real nightmare to try to find someone delicate and young looking who at the same time can exude the confidence, the streght and the energy to give the audience the feeling that they would also would follow him to the barricades, so they just discard the angelic looking enjolras and go for a more masculine kind of handsome guy.
Hugo should have though that his novel could be made into a musical and made things easier for casting directors...

Anyway, even if I like the way Enjolras is usually portrayed in the musical, for a movie I would really expect the director to be as faithful as posible to the book, but as I can easily think about people who could play nearly every other character in a convincing way, enjolras seems to me a really really difficult cast decision if you want to get te character right...
Orestes Fasting

Two words: Aaron Lazar. Took the musical version of the character and managed to make him almost as cold and solemn as he was in the book. He's not blond or girlishly pretty, but he did completely avoid that warm energy, and the approach he took would have worked equally well for an actor with a more feminine, "book Enjolras" appearance.

In terms of screen actors, did you see the remake of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe? The boy who played Peter in that, William Moseley, might make an excellent Enjolras in a few years.
windbelle

Recently saw a very old and tiny clip of Anthony Warlow in guys and dolls and I think he fitted Enjolras even better than later when he was actually playing the role, especially for his looks and the blonde hair. But it's all past tense, and now I'd love to see him as either Valjean or Javert.

I'd kill to see Brian Stokes Mitchell as Javert!

In a movie I'd love to see Edward Norton as Valjean. And maybe Scarlett Johansson as Eponine.
Mistress

windbelle wrote:

In a movie I'd love to see Edward Norton as Valjean. And maybe Scarlett Johansson as Eponine.


I really love Ed Norton, actually. His voice is so unusual..high and soft for a man's, and it can be sensitive, caressing, or quiet and creepy. I think he'd make a good Javert more than JVJ, and I actually had thoughts about him doing a decent Sweeney Todd, if he could sing.

Scarlett Johansson wouldn't be a bad Eponine, although my heart and soul is still with SJB. In a movie version, though, Johansson wouldn't be bad. Or maybe Catherine Zeta-Jones, considering she can actually sing as well as act, and she's really pretty too. She may be atad old for Fantine, though...


Another good Javert, I think would be Canadian actor Peter Outerbridge, from Regenisis, if anyone here knows the show. (I'll try and get a pic of him later.)
lesmisloony

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And maybe Scarlett Johansson as Eponine.

*brain explodes*
Quique

lesmisloony wrote:
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And maybe Scarlett Johansson as Eponine.

*brain explodes*



I was just about to post something similar. Laughing
Mistress

hmmm...what about Nicole Kidman as Fantine? *Hides from angry fans with guns*

Oh...I also found a pic of Peter Outerbridge, who I think could make a decent Javert...minus the singing:

http://uktv.co.uk/drama/item/aid/528116

He's obviously the guys in the picture...the woman is Keeley Hawes from the U.K.
bigR

Orestes Fasting wrote:
Two words: Aaron Lazar. Took the musical version of the character and managed to make him almost as cold and solemn as he was in the book. He's not blond or girlishly pretty, but he did completely avoid that warm energy, and the approach he took would have worked equally well for an actor with a more feminine, "book Enjolras" appearance.

In terms of screen actors, did you see the remake of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe? The boy who played Peter in that, William Moseley, might make an excellent Enjolras in a few years.


I've never had the chance to see aaron lazar, but I would love to. I've being reading what people said in other forums. Some absolutetly love him, while some other say he wasn't "strong" enough for enjolras, but i have the feeling that most of this people go just for musical-enjolras and don't know about the book. I'll trust until i can judge by myself Very Happy

About William Moseley. I can tell what you see in him, but I personally don't like him. I just don't like is baby face. he is pretty but not in a way i find pretty myself.
Colle

One of my earily favorites for American Idol this season is Ramiele Malubay. I think she has potential to be a good Eponine or Fantine, when she is a little older. She may be small but, as you can see in the video of her IA audition, she can belt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm6wfXVxNP8
lesmisloony

Aw, why are those Filipinos so talented? Wink
Mistress

I just listened to samples of the Red Ink original London cast recording...somehow it eluded me that Patti LuPone played Fantine...does anyone else find that...odd? Confused (that LuPone played Fantine)...it's not her sort of charcater...I mean she has to run around as a barricade boy for most of the musical, doesn't she?...and, as was mentioned before, she doesn't take small parts.
Trevor reincarnate

Colle wrote:
One of my earily favorites for American Idol this season is Ramiele Malubay. I think she has potential to be a good Eponine or Fantine, when she is a little older. She may be small but, as you can see in the video of her IA audition, she can belt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm6wfXVxNP8


She's so cute. I love philipinos so much.
When I saw that audition and she said "Aretha Franklin" I laughed out loud. And then I was stunned. She's my favorite so far. And her dad is amazing. Haha!

Anyways... on topic...

I was listening to my Assassins OBCR and I had this thought. I want to see Victor Garber play Javert.
Timmy_Wishes he was Quast

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I mean she has to run around as a barricade boy for most of the musical


As far as i can ascertain she didn't have to do this. The idea of the barricade boy wasn't bought in until sometime into the original run. TVAW or Quique will probably be able to confirm this.

And she took the part because of the cast, location and the whole experience, as she is quoted constantly when referring to her time with the RSC version of the show.
mastachen

Timmy_Wishes he was Quast wrote:
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I mean she has to run around as a barricade boy for most of the musical


As far as i can ascertain she didn't have to do this. The idea of the barricade boy wasn't bought in until sometime into the original run. TVAW or Quique will probably be able to confirm this.



I read in an interview that it was Patti LuPone's idea to have something to do after she died.



That sounds like her - bitching about stage time.
Mistress

Trevor reincarnate wrote:
I was listening to my Assassins OBCR and I had this thought. I want to see Victor Garber play Javert.


Yes! Definitely (maybe that's only because he's a fellow canuck...always love to see locals make it on broadway- Len Cariou anybody? Mr. Green )
I could really see him as Javert, except that he'd look funny with long hair and side burns...maybe someone can photoshop Javert's hair onto Garber so we can see?

Oh, and thanks for the Patti Lupone info. Smile
Moci

mastachen wrote:
Timmy_Wishes he was Quast wrote:
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I mean she has to run around as a barricade boy for most of the musical


As far as i can ascertain she didn't have to do this. The idea of the barricade boy wasn't bought in until sometime into the original run. TVAW or Quique will probably be able to confirm this.



I read in an interview that it was Patti LuPone's idea to have something to do after she died.



That sounds like her - bitching about stage time.


Thats not the way that she tells it-

Darrin Asks: It has become common practice in current productions of "Les Miserables" that the actress playing Fantine doubles as a boy on the barricade after Fantine's death in the first act (I guess so the actress doesn't get bored or so the producers get their money's worth). Did you do this when you played Fantine in London? If so, were you convincing as a boy?

Patti Answers: This is a long story Darrin. Very early in the rehearsal of Les Miz, Trevor Nunn announced to the principles that when we were finished with our roles we would become members of the chorus. I thought to myself, "I don't think so!" As you know Fantine is off the stage and out the door 20 minutes into the musical. I was performing "The Cradle Will Rock" while I was rehearsing Les Miz and always found an excuse to get out of any chorus scenes Trevor or John may have put me in. I also had in my contract that I could go home to America for 5 days while they loaded the stage floor into The Barbican Theatre. When I returned, the cast was rehearsing in a different theatre. When I found them they were staging the barricade scene and before I could duck behind a seat in the orchestra, a cast member Sally Mates yelled, "Why, there's Patti!" Hence, Fantine is only in the barricade scene. I could have killed Sally Mates. I know she did it on purpose. Anyway, I went on as a smelter, a man. But, when the character Enjolras shouts out, "All women and children leave the barricade," that was my cue to leave the stage. I miraculously became a boy.
ChorusKidx3

Javert - Alan Rickman
lesmisloony

I have decided that Abigail Breslin would be/would have been quite a good Young Cosette.
curlyhairedsoprano91

I've realized that, if there is a Les Mis movie, I don't want Emmy Rossum to be allowed anywhere near Cosette. 'Cause sometimes when she sings Phantom, I want to abduct her vocal cords and replace them with talented ones.

And I want to see a little girl who knows how to use her head voice play Little Cosette.

And I still want to see Kelsey Grammer play Javert. Even though I might have already posted that on this topic.
Orestes Fasting

Emmy Rossum should not be allowed near any musical theatre role ever. At least, not until she learns to sing like an adult instead of pretending she's still a twelve-year-old choirgirl.
Kragey

curlyhairedsoprano91 wrote:
I've realized that, if there is a Les Mis movie, I don't want Emmy Rossum to be allowed anywhere near Cosette. 'Cause sometimes when she sings Phantom, I want to abduct her vocal cords and replace them with talented ones.


Sometimes? Only sometimes? Every time she opened her mouth, I wanted to punch her.
lesmisloony

Laughing
I love you people.

(I was talking about in a movie version, of course. I hardly know any Broadway-type actors unless they've already been in LM, so I'm useless on that topic.)

But here's my movie cast so far:
Valjean-
Javert- Javier Bardem
Fantine- Kate Winslet
bishop- (I think Colm)
Marius-
Cosette- Virginie Ledoyen (or someone like her)
Enjolras- Joe Anderson
(barricade boys)- (people with pretty cheekbones)
Montparnasse- the "guy" in Kragey's icon, if he can act tough
Babet- Terrence Mann. (I tried to draw Babet in the margin of my notebook, and it came out looking startlingly like Terry...)
Gueulemer-
Claquesous- Gerard Butler (haha, just kidding)...
Thenardier-
Mme Thenardier-
Eponine-
Azelma-
Young Cosette- Abigail Breslin
Young Eponine and Azelma- who the heck cares?

Okay, that's enough for now.
EponineMNFF

curlyhairedsoprano91 wrote:
And I want to see a little girl who knows how to use her head voice play Little Cosette.


AGREED! Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

I don't know why they all try to BELT Castle on a Cloud! Don't they understand that all they have to do is use their head voice and look cute for everybody to love them? Brick wall
The Very Angry Woman

EponineMNFF wrote:
I don't know why they all try to BELT Castle on a Cloud! Don't they understand that all they have to do is use their head voice and look cute for everybody to love them? Brick wall


They really didn't start doing that until the revival. I never understood their reasoning behind having Little Elphaba.
EponineMNFF

The Very Angry Woman wrote:
EponineMNFF wrote:
I don't know why they all try to BELT Castle on a Cloud! Don't they understand that all they have to do is use their head voice and look cute for everybody to love them? Brick wall


They really didn't start doing that until the revival. I never understood their reasoning behind having Little Elphaba.


LOL!

Elphaba was popping up everywhere in the revival. Ie Alex Gemignani's gestures in BHH.

^ I don't remember who said that originally on this forum (kudos to whoever did), but when I saw him in it after that, that's ALL I could think of.
MunkuSwarley

EponineMNFF wrote:
curlyhairedsoprano91 wrote:
And I want to see a little girl who knows how to use her head voice play Little Cosette.


AGREED! Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

I don't know why they all try to BELT Castle on a Cloud! Don't they understand that all they have to do is use their head voice and look cute for everybody to love them? Brick wall


Hahaha! I agree 100%. Little Cosettes should not be allowed to belt that song.

Honestly, for Eponine, I think Phoebe Strole would be adorable.
mastachen

MunkuSwarley wrote:


Honestly, for Eponine, I think Phoebe Strole would be adorable.


I love Phoebe Strole. She is a lot better than Lauren Pritchard in the role of Ilse, and she's got the whole "my life sucks" acting down. I kept a list of people I would like to see in each role and Phoebe Strole was on there for Eponine.


And she was sooo nice to me at the stage door!
Orestes Fasting

Re: the Broadway little Cosettes. I will never understand how it's possible for a ten-year-old to belt through her nose, but one of them managed it. And sadly, she wasn't the most painful to listen to; one of the others had an extremely abrasive way of shout-singing. (And the third, bless her, actually sang in head voice.)
EponineMNFF

Orestes Fasting wrote:
Re: the Broadway little Cosettes. I will never understand how it's possible for a ten-year-old to belt through her nose, but one of them managed it. And sadly, she wasn't the most painful to listen to; one of the others had an extremely abrasive way of shout-singing. (And the third, bless her, actually sang in head voice.)


That is like exactly what I was trying to describe to my friends after seeing the show. They didn't understand it. I might just quote you and see if they get it, because you so perfectly summed it up. Very Happy
Monsieur D'Arque

Emmy Rossum's voice has only one applicable use.

Zoe in Quidam.
Kragey

lesmisloony wrote:
Montparnasse- the "guy" in Kragey's icon, if he can act tough.


He looks feminine, but that doesn't make him a wuss. XD He's actually had a more masculine image for the past couple of years.

I don't think I'd like him as Montparnasse, but he has a bright tenor voice, so he'd probably be a good Marius.
Tenalto

Seriously, he should be Enjolras. Isn't he supposed to be the prettiest man you've ever clapped eyes on?
Fantine

Tenalto wrote:
Seriously, he should be Enjolras. Isn't he supposed to be the prettiest man you've ever clapped eyes on?


If one would be gay... (Being a female).
herkind

Orestes Fasting wrote:
Re: the Broadway little Cosettes. I will never understand how it's possible for a ten-year-old to belt through her nose, but one of them managed it. And sadly, she wasn't the most painful to listen to; one of the others had an extremely abrasive way of shout-singing. (And the third, bless her, actually sang in head voice.)


I don't understand why they were allowed to continue singing like that. Not only is it annoying but it can't be good for their voices. You would think someone working in the show would tell them not to do that. The two girls I saw- Tess Adams and Kylie Liya Goldstein did fine but I have *ahem* heard the others and it's not pretty.
lesmisloony

I remember really liking the little girl I saw on Bway in 2003... but I forgot her name and am too lazy to check. It was something like "Annelisa" or... I dunno. It started with an "A."

Here is my one and only suggestion for casting in the musical and not in the movie... has anyone thought about Jonathyn Price as Thenardier (and/or has he already done it?)... I mean, I know he's old as time now, but maybe in a time warp... if we're going for that clown!Thenardier thing...

*trails off*

Eh, carry on.
Kragey

Tenalto wrote:
Seriously, he should be Enjolras. Isn't he supposed to be the prettiest man you've ever clapped eyes on?


Yes, he's compared to Adonis, but Gackt is a high, bright tenor with a strong falsetto register. I don't know if he could handle a powerful baritone part.
lesmisloony

^Eh, I was talking about the movie. He can play Montparnasse in my mental LM movie any day. No singing... just Brickishness.

I remembered the good little Cosette's name! Christiana Anbri!

...I think.
Tenalto

Quote:
I don't know if he could handle a powerful baritone part.


I meant for a movie; if his voice is as you've described, I don't think he would fit Stage!Enjolras, either.
EponineMNFF

lesmisloony wrote:
^Eh, I was talking about the movie. He can play Montparnasse in my mental LM movie any day. No singing... just Brickishness.

I remembered the good little Cosette's name! Christiana Anbri!

...I think.


Wasn't she like the longest running Little Cosette ever or something? I think I remember reading that she stopped playing the part when she was thirteen.

Thirteen! Most of the girls with that role are seven.
MunkuSwarley

EponineMNFF wrote:
lesmisloony wrote:
^Eh, I was talking about the movie. He can play Montparnasse in my mental LM movie any day. No singing... just Brickishness.

I remembered the good little Cosette's name! Christiana Anbri!

...I think.


Wasn't she like the longest running Little Cosette ever or something? I think I remember reading that she stopped playing the part when she was thirteen.

Thirteen! Most of the girls with that role are seven.


I remember Christiana! She was great! Longest running Little Cosette, played the final performance.

Re: the little cosettes in the revival. I saw two of the three originals. One annoyed me through her nasal belt. The other, Kylie, i thought was great!
Kragey

Tenalto wrote:
Quote:
I don't know if he could handle a powerful baritone part.


I meant for a movie; if his voice is as you've described, I don't think he would fit Stage!Enjolras, either.


Well, in the case of the movie, sure he could do it! But I still see him as Marius.
lesmisloony

I always picture Marius as being... cute, but not chick!cute, but not super manly either. It's probably very influenced by Michael Ball... I imagine Mikey's curls, but black, and the high cheekbone thing I always picture for LM chars, and kind of a Michael-esque nose. So, maybe like that picture from the CSR booklet, but with black hair? And a slightly more angular face?

...I dunno.
bigR

Kragey wrote:










I don't know... He seems too girlily pretty for marius... dye him blond and I really can see movie enjolras
lesmisloony

MontparnasseMontparnasseMontparnasse! How can you look at him and not think of Montparnasse? Look at the eyes and the cheekbones and the... Montyness...
The Very Angry Woman

Monsieur D'Arque wrote:
Emmy Rossum's voice has only one applicable use.

Zoe in Quidam.


I love it.

Or, perhaps, the Trickster in Kooza...
mastachen

How can you be toooo girly for Marius?
bigR

lesmisloony wrote:
MontparnasseMontparnasseMontparnasse! How can you look at him and not think of Montparnasse? Look at the eyes and the cheekbones and the... Montyness...


I stick to enjolras but I can see him as Montparnasse too (specially in other pics where he looks more depraved)... i just can't see him as marius ( i picture marius sweet looking but not kind of effeminate like monty or like someone who could pass for a 17 years old like enjolras).
Kragey

HEY NOW. Don't blaspheme Quidam with Emmy Rossum's name!

bigR wrote:
I don't know... He seems too girlily pretty for marius... die him blond and I really can see movie enjolras


Like I said, he's "stopped being so girly" in recent years, partly because he's getting older:



If we're talking about a non-musical version, I might like to see any of the following:


Chloe Sevigny as Fantine.
Incredibly underrated actress. If you've seen her in Big Love, you've probably noticed her long blonde hair and perfect teeth.


Camui Gackt as Marius.
I don't know why I keep thinking it, but I think it's his naive-loving-loyal look.


Helena Bonham Carter as ANYBODY
And I know I'm a f!cking fangirl. Thanks for the reminder.


Ralph Fiennes as Colonel Georges Pontmercy.
He'd look totally awesome in army fatigues.


Jim Caviezel as part of the Patron Minette.
Put him where you please.


Hugh Jackman as part of the Patron Minette.
Put him where you please.


Harry Dean Stanton as part of the Patron Minette, Fauchelevent, or just about any other older character.
Great character actor!


Jake Gyllenhaal as Marius
Thanks to some of his more recent parts, people have forgotten how well Jake can play bright-eyed and bushy-tailed. He'd be a different but enjoyable Marius.


Jude Law as Enjolras.
Although I kind of stopped watching his movies and looking at his pictures post-AI, he's still ridiculous pretty in a Greek god sort-of-way, unless something happened to him recently.


Jared Leto as a younger barricade member.


Cillian Murphy as Montparnasse.
He's probably best known for his roles in Batman Begins and Redeye, although I thought his talent was at its best in Breakfast On Pluto.


Christopher Meloni for any nice character part.
Anybody else an Oz fan?


Fairuza Balk as Eponine.
She has a reputation for playing crazy badgirls, but if you've seen the indie film Gas Food Lodging, you've also seen her play the opposite end of the spectrum. She's probably way too old now to pull off the part, but she'd still rock it.


Charlize Theron as Fantine.
If you were looking more for the beauty than the talent or the slight quirkiness (see Chloe Sevigny for that). She's an okay actress, but honestly? I just like her because she's one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen.


A bunch of female symphonic metal singers for bit-parts.
Just because they rock my world.
mastachen

MunkuSwarley wrote:
EponineMNFF wrote:
lesmisloony wrote:
^Eh, I was talking about the movie. He can play Montparnasse in my mental LM movie any day. No singing... just Brickishness.

I remembered the good little Cosette's name! Christiana Anbri!

...I think.


Wasn't she like the longest running Little Cosette ever or something? I think I remember reading that she stopped playing the part when she was thirteen.

Thirteen! Most of the girls with that role are seven.


I remember Christiana! She was great! Longest running Little Cosette, played the final performance.


This reminded me of a question I had about the Little Cosettes but didnt think it was important enough for its own thread. Near the end of the original run, did any of the little girls double as Gavroches?



Nae, I agree with you. Charlize Theron is sooo hot
The Very Angry Woman

Almost any girl tall enough to climb the barricade understudied Gavroche, but not many went on. (I believe Christiana Anbri did at least once, though.) I assume the minimum height for girls was the same as whatever the initial height at date of hire was for boys -- it has to do with some kind of occupational safety standard for children.
bigR

Kragey wrote:


bigR wrote:
I don't know... He seems too girlily pretty for marius... die him blond and I really can see movie enjolras


O.K. Thank you everybody for not making fun of the "DIE him blond". I know you probably did not say anything because I'm not from an english speaking background, but if I was you I wouldn't have been able to just shut up! It would be irritating if you were picking on me because of small grammar errors, but you are welcome to have fun the next time I make anyone else die because of his hair colour!

Kragey wrote:

Like I said, he's "stopped being so girly" in recent years, partly because he's getting older:



WOW, now this IS Montparnasse.

Kragey wrote:

If we're talking about a non-musical version, I might like to see any of the following:


Chloe Sevigny as Fantine.



Sorry, but I can't see her as Fantine. Fantine is supposed to be really pretty, and Chloe is interesting looking but nowhere near pretty


Kragey wrote:



Helena Bonham Carter as ANYBODY


mme. thenardier?

Kragey wrote:


Jake Gyllenhaal as Marius
Thanks to some of his more recent parts, people have forgotten how well Jake can play bright-eyed and bushy-tailed. He'd be a different but enjoyable Marius.

We don't seem to be able to agree with the mariuses. Blue eyed marius? I would like someone with a more mediterranean look...

Kragey wrote:
Jude Law as Enjolras.

mmm... yes. although I don't know either how he is looking this lately. if he still looks so young as in Mr. Ripley he could be good

Kragey wrote:



Fairuza Balk as Eponine.

I like her! Very Happy

Kragey wrote:
[img]Charlize Theron as Fantine.


I might be weird but I've never been able to see her beautifulness. I don't see her even pretty! (and in any case she is too tall and strong built for fairylike fantine)
bigR

kkijhg
Mistress

Kragey wrote:


Ach! It's Tarja from Nightwish!!! Shocked ...What do you think of the new girl, Anette?

Anyway, speaking of metal chicks, I think Sharon from Within Temptation has a lovely voice and would make a good Cossette or even Fantine, if she has the right range.
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