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bwaydisaster	Eponine's Errand I've never heard this before because it didn't come with my Les Mis Cast Recording. But I just listened to it a few moments ago and just the fact that it shares the same tune as ALFOR really strikes me. I almost cried. Just to think that that tune started a love triangle and also ended one. Yes, I just thought I'd share.
metaphor17	^ That's exactly why I like that song so much... It's beautiful, IMO.
MsDivaKate	Oh I adore it. What recording did you listen to of Eponine's Errand? The one from the CSR?
kitty17794	I never even noticed that it shared the tune with ALFOR...
bwaydisaster	uhh MsDivaKate wrote: Oh I adore it. What recording did you listen to of Eponine's Errand? The one from the CSR? original london cast, I believe.
flying_pigs	If you're talking about official recordings, then it can't be the Original London Cast as it doesn't have Eponine's Errand. CSR is the only English recording to have it, I think.
Electricity24601	My personal favorite part of this bit of the show is when JVJ reads the letter. (Don't know if it's technically part of Eponine's erand, but close enough) On a good Valjean the emotions are so amazing to watch. 'Specially love the little pause after "that you love me as well."
Orestes Fasting	Electricity24601 wrote: My personal favorite part of this bit of the show is when JVJ reads the letter. (Don't know if it's technically part of Eponine's erand, but close enough) On a good Valjean the emotions are so amazing to watch. 'Specially love the little pause after "that you love me as well." The scene technically titled Eponine's Errand is actually in Act I.
bwaydisaster	flying_pigs wrote: If you're talking about official recordings, then it can't be the Original London Cast as it doesn't have Eponine's Errand. CSR is the only English recording to have it, I think. ahh I don't know, that's just what the website said. I'll look again though!
EponineBarker	bwaydisaster wrote: flying_pigs wrote: If you're talking about official recordings, then it can't be the Original London Cast as it doesn't have Eponine's Errand. CSR is the only English recording to have it, I think. ahh I don't know, that's just what the website said. I'll look again though! I think your right, flying_pigs. The only other time that I can think of when Eponine does an errand for Marius is at the end of the song "Here Upon These Stones (The Building of the Barricade)" (right before "On My Own") and that's on the OBC.
Orestes Fasting	EponineBarker wrote: bwaydisaster wrote: flying_pigs wrote: If you're talking about official recordings, then it can't be the Original London Cast as it doesn't have Eponine's Errand. CSR is the only English recording to have it, I think. ahh I don't know, that's just what the website said. I'll look again though! I think your right, flying_pigs. The only other time that I can think of when Eponine does an errand for Marius is at the end of the song "Here Upon These Stones (The Building of the Barricade)" (right before "On My Own") and that's on the OBC. And that part isn't set to the tune of ALFOR either. In fact, I think only the track entitled Eponine's Errand has that tune in it--it makes its first appearance in "Eponine, who was that girl?" "Some bourgeois two-a-penny thing" and doesn't come back until Eponine makes it over the barricade for the last time.
metaphor17	Orestes Fasting wrote: EponineBarker wrote: bwaydisaster wrote: flying_pigs wrote: If you're talking about official recordings, then it can't be the Original London Cast as it doesn't have Eponine's Errand. CSR is the only English recording to have it, I think. ahh I don't know, that's just what the website said. I'll look again though! I think your right, flying_pigs. The only other time that I can think of when Eponine does an errand for Marius is at the end of the song "Here Upon These Stones (The Building of the Barricade)" (right before "On My Own") and that's on the OBC. And that part isn't set to the tune of ALFOR either. In fact, I think only the track entitled Eponine's Errand has that tune in it--it makes its first appearance in "Eponine, who was that girl?" "Some bourgeois two-a-penny thing" and doesn't come back until Eponine makes it over the barricade for the last time. But it is the same tune as the few lines that Eponine sings before ALFOR starts for real. The whole "I took the letter like you said, I met her father at the door" thing.
Orestes Fasting	metaphor17 wrote: Orestes Fasting wrote: EponineBarker wrote: bwaydisaster wrote: flying_pigs wrote: If you're talking about official recordings, then it can't be the Original London Cast as it doesn't have Eponine's Errand. CSR is the only English recording to have it, I think. ahh I don't know, that's just what the website said. I'll look again though! I think your right, flying_pigs. The only other time that I can think of when Eponine does an errand for Marius is at the end of the song "Here Upon These Stones (The Building of the Barricade)" (right before "On My Own") and that's on the OBC. And that part isn't set to the tune of ALFOR either. In fact, I think only the track entitled Eponine's Errand has that tune in it--it makes its first appearance in "Eponine, who was that girl?" "Some bourgeois two-a-penny thing" and doesn't come back until Eponine makes it over the barricade for the last time. But it is the same tune as the few lines that Eponine sings before ALFOR starts for real. The whole "I took the letter like you said, I met her father at the door" thing. I count that as part of ALFOR. I think my post might have been a little confusing: Upon These Stones is not Eponine's Errand, even though Eponine is indeed sent on an errand in that song, and I was trying to say that Upon These Stones couldn't be the song being discussed earlier in the thread either, since Song Discussed Earlier was set to the tune of ALFOR. And the only other song set to the tune of ALFOR is... Eponine's Errand! In other words: ignore me, because it is late and my mind is addled, causing me to make very confusing posts with exceedingly run-on sentences, much like this one, which is going to be dragged out indefinitely unless I put an end to it and stop my babbling RIGHT NOW. There. Back to your regularly-scheduled Miz now. (P.S. The CSR is indeed the only official English recording to include Eponine's Errand.)
EponinesRain	Leitmotifs are what make Les Mis such a tightly-knit and solid production. From Sternfeld's The Megamusical: "Eponine is assigned two melodic shapes which she uses to express her feelings and desires in fairly conversational tones; these two shapes always come together. She shares the material with others, usually Marius or Thenardier and his men, but the music is always hers. It makes one of the most complete appearances just after Eponine has realized who Cossete must be: Eponine: (singing the first melodic shape) Cosette, now I remember./Cosette, how can it be?/We were children together,/Look what's become of me. (To Marius): Good God, ooh, what a rumpus! Marius: that girl, who can she be? Eponine: That cop, he'd like to jump us/But he ain't smart, not he. Marius (moving to the second melodic shape): Eponine, who was that girl? ..." Thus, the second melodic shape is the ALFOR leitmotif. Ah, but there's more! "Marius and Eponine preview their upcoming duet 'A Little Fall of Rain' before they sing it (in the aforementioned examples) and the same melody accompanies the students' reverent removal of Eponine's body from the barricade after she dies [...] More commonly, melodies change hands in accordance with dramatic or emotional situations; for example, it becomes appropriate for Fantine and Eponine to share a melody ("Fantine's Death" and "On My Own"), as Fantine uses it to profess her love for her daughter Cosette, whom she will never see again. Eponine uses it to declare her devotion to the unattainable Marius. Some set numbers are revisited with new words in brief restatements...in either semi-complete or quite fragmented forms." I just think it's cool that Marius, Eponine, and Enjolras borrow fragments of Fantine's IDAD for "One Day More"
The Very Angry Woman	Scott Miller also writes a great deal on the motifs in Les Miz. I don't have the book on me, so I can't quote any passages here, but it's definitely worth a look. http://www.amazon.com/Assassins-West-Side-Story-Directors/dp/0435086995/
EponinesRain	Wait a minute... Don't Marius and Eponine actually share another melodic motif, thereby assigning Eponine a third melodic shape? Orestes Fasting and EponineBarker touch upon this, I think. The third exchange or leitmotif are Marius and Eponine's first lines in "The Robbery" which mimic Gavroche's melody in "Look Down". This melody comes again-- and I think this is what EponineBarker was saying- right before Eponine is sent on her second errand, with: Marius: Hey little boy, what's this I see? God, Eponine, the things you do! Eponine: I know this is no place for me. Still, I would rather be with you" etc. Hrm...where does Sternfeld mention this motif in her book...*rummages through* Thanks for the link, TVAW!
Electricity24601	Orestes Fasting wrote: Electricity24601 wrote: My personal favorite part of this bit of the show is when JVJ reads the letter. (Don't know if it's technically part of Eponine's erand, but close enough) On a good Valjean the emotions are so amazing to watch. 'Specially love the little pause after "that you love me as well." The scene technically titled Eponine's Errand is actually in Act I. I knew that. Sorry.

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