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Yip1982	How Marius escaped the fall of the barricades We know that all the students were killed when the barricade fell, but Marius was able to escape. However, I've not thought about this for some time, and I think we could discuss it. I think this is interesting to find out more about. Although Marius was shot when the barricade fell, how was he able to escape? I'm sure he didn't need to be in the firing-line like Enjolras and his friends, but when he was love-struck surely he was able to escape because his thoughts were elsewhere. Yet I know that Valjean played a part in saving Marius by volunteering himself after Eponine sent him the letter. Yes I know that when he sang Bring Him Home he was asking for God to protect Marius, and so that played a part because he carried Marius through the sewers after Enjolras and the students were killed.
lesmisloony	http://www.online-literature.com/victor_hugo/les_miserables/322/ http://www.online-literature.com/victor_hugo/les_miserables/329/ And keep going from there. I find it straightforward.
GungaDin	Victor Hugo fixed it.
bigR	Re: How Marius escaped the fall of the barricades Yip1982 wrote: We know that all the students were killed when the barricade fell, but Marius was able to escape. However, I've not thought about this for some time, and I think we could discuss it. . How exactly do you want to discuss something that's been fixed and lenghtly explained for dozen of pages 150 years ago? Yip1982 wrote: Yes I know that when he sang Bring Him Home he was asking for God to protect Marius, and so that played a part because he carried Marius through the sewers after Enjolras and the students were killed. I get this is Musicals.net and there's no reason why the posters should have read the book. But, talking musical verse: don't you think that the fact that you've seen Valjean carrying wounded Marius through the sewers kind of explains how he was saved?
Orestes Fasting	Um, look, I realize some people here have only been exposed to the TAC and/or cast recordings of the show, and haven't read the book or been able to see the musical live. But if you're one of those people, it's probably a good idea to realize there are gaps in your understanding of the plot, and check a plot summary or a YouTube video or something before you try to start a "discussion" on a point that was very clearly addressed in the book, the musical, and practically any movie version you care to name. It's pretty simple. Marius gets shot and knocked out, Valjean opens up a sewer grate and drags his unconscious body to safety while everyone else is getting shot. Clearer now?
What you own	Okey amazingling stupid question but... What do you mean Victor Hugo fixed it? As in was there originally a mistake or something? I'm sorry I'm just a bit confused.
MlleTholomy�s	What you own wrote: Okey amazingling stupid question but... What do you mean Victor Hugo fixed it? As in was there originally a mistake or something? I'm sorry I'm just a bit confused. I think as in 'the musical made it like woah crazy and extremely difficult to follow, but, once you read the book, it made sense.'
Fantine	I really didn't understand the question and actually I still don't. It seems kind of obvious to me.
bigR	I think it is completely clear in the musical, aswell. If you have never seen the show live it may be confusing, but if you have seen it, I don't see how it is crazy or difficult to follow
jackrussell	I may have misunderstood the original poster, but I took him to mean "how come all the other students were shot dead, but Marius was only knocked unconscious, thus allowing Valjean to get him away from there in one piece?" To which the simplest answer is, "because Marius is needed for the plot."
bigR	Not really. The correct answer would be: because Marius is the only one who gets rescued when he is deadthly wounded and lying in the middle of the street. If Valjean hadn't been there, Marius would had died as eveybody else. In the show Valjean gets up after the attack is over, and goes to Marius to check wether he is still alive or not, and when he realizes he's still breathing he carries him into the sewers. He doesn't bother to check about anybody else, because obviously he can't carry more than one person. In the brick Valjean spends the final battle tending to the fallen, helping wounded people and carrying them inside the caf�. He doesn't fight. When Marius gets shot, Valjean inmediately grabs him, takes him away from the combat scene and then into the sewers. Otherwise he would have died. Hugo's plot construction habilities may not be brilliant, but having Marius surviving the barricades only by chance, because he is Marius (� la Tom Cruise in that samurai movie) would had been way too clumsy, even for him.
jackrussell	You're quite right of course, serves me right for making a joke at Victor Hugo's expense!
Moci	The spirit of Eponine travelled down and her love for Marius imbued him with the ability to regenerate. Unfortunately there was no handy bio-matching receptacle, so his body would have changed, had it not been for the prayers of Valjean for Marius to return to Cosette allowing the spirit of Fantine to visit the scene of the barricade to alter the regeneration process. I believe that Mulder and Scully are looking into it at this moment.
GungaDin	/\ uhmmm...like toooooooooooo contrived.
lesmisloony	Mulder and Scully aren't real!
Fantine	Moci wrote: The spirit of Eponine travelled down and her love for Marius imbued him with the ability to regenerate. Unfortunately there was no handy bio-matching receptacle, so his body would have changed, had it not been for the prayers of Valjean for Marius to return to Cosette allowing the spirit of Fantine to visit the scene of the barricade to alter the regeneration process. I believe that Mulder and Scully are looking into it at this moment. Haha.
MariekeLovesEnjolras	Moci wrote: The spirit of Eponine travelled down and her love for Marius imbued him with the ability to regenerate. Unfortunately there was no handy bio-matching receptacle, so his body would have changed, had it not been for the prayers of Valjean for Marius to return to Cosette allowing the spirit of Fantine to visit the scene of the barricade to alter the regeneration process. I believe that Mulder and Scully are looking into it at this moment. Iloveyou.

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