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The Very Angry Woman |
Lea Salonga to Replace Daphne Rubin-Vegahttp://www.broadway.com/gen/Buzz_Story.aspx?ci=542374 |
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Moci |
Best news I've heard in ages. She's going to be fantastic, I just know it. | ||||||||
Trevor |
Yesssssssss...
I have tickets to see it when she's on too! Made me that much more anxious to see it! |
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Moci |
Is jealous. This interested me: "An announcement from the office of Les Miz producer Cameron Macintosh stated that Salonga will continue in the production "through at least the summer of 2007... the entire period" of a previously announced extension of the revival at the Broadhurst Theatre. Previous reports had indicated that Rubin-Vega would return in mid-April, after her off-Broadway play closed." I'd love to know the circumstances why DRV isn't returning although a recent interview gives a clue, "So I�m leaving Les Miz a little early just so those haters and can go covel (is that supposed to be covet?) over other divas." |
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Trevor |
Hmmm... I think she's leaving because she sucked?
Sorry. That was childish. |
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The Very Angry Woman |
http://www.broadwayworld.com/viewcolumn.cfm?colid=14559 |
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Moci |
That never stopped other people. From what I've seen, she didn't seem too bad- I hated the vocals, but she appeared to act it quite well, I can't help feeling that at least some of the bashing on other boards was unfair, if typical, but then I haven't seen her, so can't really judge. Saying that though, if paying for tickets, I know which out of Rubin-Vega and Salonga I'd prefer to listen to. |
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Trevor |
Let me guess...
Judging by your picture and such... Daphne? |
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Orestes Fasting |
Eh. I was hoping they'd pick someone who was less of a name, but she'll be better than Daphne, no doubt of that.
I'm braced for the screaming fangirl explosion once the news gets spread around a bit more. |
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Quique |
This is great news! I was anxious to see Daphne but think I prefer seeing Lea in the role. I'm glad I've planned my trip for later on this year. | ||||||||
Quique |
Aaaak! The fangirls! I forgot all about the screechy fangirls! lol. |
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Moci |
What about fanboys too? |
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Jekkienumber24601 |
YES! OH THIS IS AMAZING!!!! WOW!!! WAHOO! Unfortunatly Daphne is returning, but still Amazing in news! | ||||||||
Quique |
The fanboys are usually little queens...so yeah...fangirls, lol. |
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The Very Angry Woman |
But she may not be. Re-read the article. |
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DaddyDiesel |
Ill admit that I never saw Daphne but I just cannot see her playing fantine. I have never liked her voice. so maybe i am biased. But Lea salonga is a much better fit in my mind. It would be cool to see a no namer in the role but at least, In my mind, she actually fits the part better. | ||||||||
Jekkienumber24601 |
Not true! I think she's amazing and hot! Two things that was missing with Daphne. I'm screaming right now. |
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Eponine93 |
I hate to pull a fangirl but: OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! I AM SO SO SO SO SO SO SO HAPPY!
You don't know what this means to me. I'm a huge fan of Lea Salonga ever since I saw the video of her as Eponine in the TAC. I've never gotten to see her live onstage because I was too young to see most of her live performances in America. This is amazing! |
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What Is This Feeling? |
CRYYYYYY! ....... Sob* I LOVE LEA SALONGA! My favorite performer! I'm so happy! She'll do a fantastic job! She will! Oh MY gOD she'll be amazing!!!! I just wish I got to see her! I'm going to have to go back! SOB OMG!!!! | ||||||||
The Very Angry Woman |
Anyone have a raincoat and some antibacterial gel I could borrow? | ||||||||
What Is This Feeling? |
Oh, that interview with DRV, lolol. She doesn't know what the hell she is talking about. The one you previously linked, TVAW. Lol! Hahhahaha! | ||||||||
eponine5 |
Go lea Salonga!!!!!!!!!
I'm not even that great a fan of her Eponine, but I love her in all the other things I've heard her sing! Now the cast will be absolutely AMAZING! The only annoying thing is, I've already been to America and back! And to think that I saw Daphne when I could have seen.... |
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EponinesRain |
Yay- this is excellent news! I guess there were assumptions that Cameron Macintosh wanted to anchor this production with a big name like Daphne. Now he's doing the same thing with Lea. Though, both of them indeed live up to their reputations...I just think Lea is more suited for this role, heh! She'll probably be better as Fantine than Eponine, too. Her voice was too beautiful to play the latter!
I'm so jealous, too! Who can take me from Los Angeles to New York in his/her luggage?? I don't mind flying coach! |
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Moci |
There are some straight Lea Salonga fanboys. (Can I ask what is with the SHOUTING in this thread? It's as if Harry Potter has walked out of 'Order of the Pheonix' and onto MdN.) |
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Eponine93 |
Lol. I think we're all very excited. I know I started jumping around and shouting in my house when I found out.
She's not too bright, is she? I personally loved how she kept going off topic and slipping curse words in. I may have a big head, but I'm fairly positive I'm twice as smart as she is, though she is more than twice my age. That's what I hate about showbiz. You don't need to be a genius/reasonably intelligent/average smart/somewhat sane/not a blithering idiot to suceed. |
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The Very Angry Woman |
I didn't take it that way, but then again, I listened to the podcast first, and it may come across differently in print/screen. She seemed very confident but also aware and weary of the "haters" (I was intrigued that she did seem to be keeping up with the criticism, or at least knew about it through filters), but at the same time, she wasn't going to mold herself into something she wasn't. Unfortunately, I think the casting tried to do just that to the role of Fantine (not neccessarily to her), and that was their loss, and Lea Salonga's gain. |
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Eponine93 |
Yeah, I did find it interesting she mentioned the "haters." That point didn't really come from skimming over the interview. I think she has perssonality, though, and knows who she is, just has trouble coming across in speaking. A lot of people do, really. I've found it really interesting how she's so good at delivering lines onstage yet can barely speak to someone without creating an impossible to read transcript. The funny thing is, people who are obviously VERY intellectual- JK Rowling, for instance- sometimes have the same problem. I just think Daphne had trouble organizing her thoughts and getting to the point. When you have a conversation or listen to a conversation of someone who does that, its acceptable and normal. However, when you're reading the transcript of someone who can't get the point across easily, most people like me tend to become more of a critic. Daphne didn't really seem to be a big fan of the show, didn't seem to really study her role. What she said about not being a Patti LuPone or Randy Graff made me think she was repeating a lot of what the producers told her about cast-recording Fantines. While something about LuPone's Fantine speaks to me because she was the first person I heard sing it, she doesn't really color the role and despite my personal fondness for her interpretation, is not the ideal Fantine (this goes against what I have written in previous posts, but that was before I listened to Ruthie Henshall daily singing I Dreamed A Dream) If I were Daphne, I would have done a lot more research. |
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Orestes Fasting |
I also kind of wonder if she's read the book. The only two cast members whom I've seen elaborate on the rehearsal process and their take on the show--Ali Ewoldt and Aaron Lazar--both stressed going back to the original novel for their interpretations, but Daphne's Fantine seemed far too proud to be channelling her book counterpart. Overconfident Fantine actresses who don't do their homework tend to suck. Anyone with Edward Behr's book on LM, go look for Patti LuPone's comments--"Yeah, I'm real good at that kind of thing. I can do those weepy roles in my sleep." Guess what, darling? You do sound like you're singing it in your sleep! |
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Lazarus (Adam G) |
zomg lea iz so awsum she da best onine evuh!1111 | ||||||||
Eponine93 |
^ Fanboy much?
I totally understand though. I was thinking the same thing. Only maybe in a more grammerically-correct way. |
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chomppuppy |
[quote="Orestes Fasting"]
Yes, it said in a Playbill article that Daphne read the book. She apparently did quite a bit of research, she just did not study other actresses' performances. (She evens comments about how Fantine sells her teeth in the book-I think she read it) |
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The Very Angry Woman |
Miss the satire much? |
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The Very Angry Woman |
In the novel the degeneration of her character, let's say, going from the seamstress who sells the locket of her loved one to pay for her child and then she sells her hair and then she sells her body. Between the hair and the body came the teeth. She sells her teeth. . . . I fell back on my chair [when I read that]. Just the tragedy of her physical state. She's poor, always been poor � she came from unknown origins. No one knew who her parents were, but she had this integrity and this beauty. It says she was rich, except that the gold was in her hair, and the pearls were in her teeth. And so to see the visual, to digest that she sells her hair and her teeth and there's still a modicum of beauty in her, but that gets killed. It all gets killed. http://www.playbill.com/celebritybuzz/article/102700.html |
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Quique |
Some of you guys are being way too harsh on Daphne.
It's one thing to not like her singing style or interpretation of the character, it's another thing to attack her personally and say she isn't very bright and insult her looks. |
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Fantine |
Well with fangirls at least Fantine will get more recognition |
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Lazarus (Adam G) |
Nah, I was making fun of her fans. |
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Cloudy This Morning |
Oh good LORD. Like Orestes, I too am awaiting the incredible amount of mind-numbing fan-spooge that will accompany Les Salonga involved in anything Les Miserables.
I was just fine with Daphne. |
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Moci |
Is that her uncle? To be honest, would any new Les Mis fans be a bad thing? Even if they are brainwashed, they can probably be converted and unless I'm not aware of something, Les Mis fandom isn't anywhere near what it was a few years ago, which is a shame. |
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What Is This Feeling? |
I guess that's true. Fantine is a great character. I too agree that the book Fantine has it harder than the musical one. And don't get me wrong, I like Daphne- Rubin- Vega. She is my favorite Mimi, I just wasn't THE biggest fan of her Fantine. Plus, that interview, just came off to me as really diva and unprofessional. She started saying that Chris Columbus wasn't the director for Rent, and saying "that's not the Rent that I was apart of". So, her reputation has decreased with me over the last few months, but, alas.. | ||||||||
Eponine93 |
Yeah, I have to apologize for not calling her not that smart. The one interview I saw seemed for her to be very unprofessional. Overall, she seemed completely uninformed. However, the Playbill interview seemed to show she really studied the role and tried hard on it. Really, what do you guys think was wrong with her interpretation?
Personally, I think her voice was way too screechy for the role. From the clips I've seen, she sounded like she was shouting instead of singing "I Dreamed A Dream." Her Fantine was intense, but I think combined with her poor voice for the role, it came off as too intense. However, I think that for the sake of racial equality on Broadway its sort of sad that she couldn't pull of the role. Had a Hispanic done very well at the part it probably would have led to a lot more Hispanic actresses performing in Broadway operas similar to Les Mis. I know Lea Salonga already has helped pave the way for Asians on Broadway for being such a success as the role of Eponine (not even going into her performance in Miss Saigon... absolutely brilliant) but I felt Daphne Rubin-Vega could have done the same but, for some reason, it didn't work. I feel for the girl, though. Mainly because she's a diva. I'm naturally a diva and I find life very difficult at times. As hard as it is for someone to be around a diva or drama queen, life is even harder for someone who is a diva or drama queen. And its part of their personality. Its not something that can easily be changed. I do think its interesting that first a Hispanic actress is playing the role of Fantine and she is being replaced by an Asian actress. Not to mention that they have a black Javert. This production pretty much is proof color-blind productions of Les Mis can be successful. |
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The Very Angry Woman |
But she's right. The Chris Columbus vision of Rent was very different from the off-and-on Broadway productions. I don't blame her for being detached. |
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Quique |
There would not suddenly be a string of Hispanic Fantines had Daphne been universally praised for her portrayal of the character. There have been lots of Asians cast as both Eponine and Fantine because most of them had been in another one of Boublil & Schonberg's shows; Miss Saigon. Other than in Les Mis, there is still a tremendous shortage of Asians in other shows. It has nothing to do with Asians having "proven themselves" talented enough to be cast in a show in the first place and absolutely nothing to do with Hispanics not yet proving themselves. Btw...there have been a lot of Hispanic actors cast in Les Mis. In fact, there are many, many Hispanic actors cast in many other shows but you would probably not know it because they blend in with the rest of the cast. Not all Hispanics look obviously "Hispanic." But at the same time, I think I understand what you're trying to say...that Daphne's success could've paved the way for more Hispanics being cast specifically in the role of Fantine. Well, maybe or maybe not. I say it wouldn't have made a difference. |
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The Very Angry Woman |
You're right. There have been plenty of Hispanics in Les Miz, and they haven't garnered this kind of attention. But being Hispanic has nothing to do with it. DRV is not getting attention because she's another link in the color-blind casting chain, she's getting attention because she's DRV. DRV is non-traditionally cast not because of her ethnic background. It's her voice and overall non-musical theatre sound. Lea Salonga did not head a string of Asian Eponines. There weren't a ton right after her; it took a few years for that. And it is true that it has more to with the Saigon connection than Lea Salonga. It's easy to assume Lea paved the way, but sooner or later someone in the Johnson/Liff office would've realized Kim and Eponine had enough similiarities where it woudln't be out of the question to cast one as the other. |
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Quique |
I agree. It has nothing to do with ethnic background. Since the very start, I never focused on the fact she was Hispanic. It was all about Daphne - the artist. It isn't until someone brings up her looks or ethnic background that I realize maybe some people do focus on that. And no, I'm not offended by people bringing that up but I do hate it when there are comments that insult Daphne, the person, (as if they know her personally) rather than Daphne, the artist. EDIT: Btw, just thought I'd clear something up: When I said that there is a tremendous shortage of Asians in other musicals, I didn't mean for it to sound as if I were saying that Hispanics are being cast in other roles but not Asians due to not having "proven themselves." I doubt anyone interpreted that way but just want to make sure as that would be such a horrible thing to say, lol. If anything, I was basically saying what TVAW said - that it isn't based on ethnicity. It just doesn't work that way. I hope this makes sense, lol. |
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Quique |
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The Very Angry Woman |
Oh, hold on, hold on, let me get out my:
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bwaybound |
I'm a fangirl, but not a screeching one. I'm more like, "Woo hoo! Yes!"
I have to say that I really like the fact that Lea's taking over Fantine. Being Filipina myself, Lea's obviously someone who I should look up to. And I do. However, that being said, I am a soprano/mezzo-soprano. I cannot hit that low F in "A Little Fall..." I can, however sing the s**t out of "I Dreamed a Dream" (...at least I like to think so). So even if the reason that Lea was cast as Eponine was because she was a resource from a previous show (and of course, because of her talent), I'm still going to see her taking on the role of Fantine as a step forward (even though it's a 'smaller' part than Eponine--let's not get started on big/small parts) for me (my personal aspirations to one day play Fantine). Hmm...did any of that make sense? Sorry for all the parenthetical comments. By the way, AngryWoman: LOVE the avatar. |
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The Very Angry Woman |
Does that mean you idolize Andrew Cunanan, too? P.S. I'm also Asian, don't h8, kthxbye. |
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bwaybound |
Haha, nice disclaimer. Joke lang, huh? I'll take admiration for Jose Rizal, and props for Rex Navarrete, but I say no to the Cunanan. |
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LesMisIsLove |
I wonder how Celia K-B will feel having Lea Salonga joining the cast. It must be a lot of pressure to have a famous Eponine join the cast. I'm not saying she'll change her portrayal, but still, I know I'd be thinking, What does Lea think of my interpretation? | ||||||||
Lazarus (Adam G) |
seeeriously lea is awsum toetally i want her to hav ma babies zomg! shez a smart!!!111 evry1 else is a dum!!!!! so fuk u h8ers!!!
Seriously, people should stop idolizing Salonga. She's good, but not the best... |
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music is my life!!! |
This is one of my first posts and Lea Salonga is (bar far!) my fave 'ponine and i think she'll do gr8 as Fantine but i think i'll always prefer her has Eponine tho... | ||||||||
The Very Angry Woman |
Weren't you like, 2 when she first played Eponine? |
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music is my life!!! |
well... i saw the TAC which i thought was fab and i listened to Frances Ruffelle but i really prefer Lea | ||||||||
music is my life!!! |
and i think she'll b a fab Fantine | ||||||||
Fantine |
Lea Salonga is, for me, one of the best singers in the world. | ||||||||
music is my life!!! |
Yeah! Go lea! By the way i found a video on youtube of her singing stuff from oliver! it was so good! if you type in "oliver!" and "as long as he needs me" and "salonga" it should come up.
i think she's increddible at any part she plays/song she sings! |
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The Very Angry Woman |
Do you not know how to copy and paste? |
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music is my life!!! |
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Orestes Fasting |
Have you seen a video of Frances' performance as Eponine? If you haven't I'd think it'd be difficult to compare them. |
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music is my life!!! |
i've only heard her in productions but i saw a vid on youtube the other day of Frances doing on my own. Altho i like her a bit more now, (and you'll probably hate me for this - sorry!) Lea's still my favourite eponine | ||||||||
The Very Angry Woman |
In case people hadn't heard:
http://www.adamson.edu.ph/jubilee/Lea_Salonga_Concert.shtml |
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krisavalon |
Man, I would kill to see that. I have the biggest crush on Lea Salonga. | ||||||||
Jekkienumber24601 |
I have to say all the eponine's are hotter than the cosette's. sorry, but true | ||||||||
Trevor |
When I was in Les Mis, my Eponine was hot, but my Cosette was GORGEOUS. I enjoyed that show.
(I was Marius, obviously) |
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Orestes Fasting |
Except in the revival. *goes back to fangirling Ali in the corner* |
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The Very Angry Woman |
Have you heard of Elena Shaddow? |
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Salome |
Judy Kuhn is alot hotter than that fuuucking annoying bitch Frances Ruffle. | ||||||||
What Is This Feeling? |
Yes, yes! I love you! Can't stand Frances! salome, curious, what house did u first see Les Mis in, Broadway or Imperial? | ||||||||
WhoAmI? |
Thank the Lord! Daphne was horrible..no offense..im curious to see how Lea will do as Fantine..Ive only ever seen her as Eponine. | ||||||||
Mme Fauchevelant |
Pity. I used to live in the Philippines. I'd love to see/hear that... |
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Moci |
Lea Salonga singing 'I Dreamed A Dream'
I can't help feeling that she's a bit weak, especially in the middle. However, this wasn't a staged performance and she hasn't gone into rehearsals yet, so hopefully she'll have improved by the time she opens. |
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LesMisForever |
Agreed from another Lea's fan. | ||||||||
EponinesRain |
Thanks for the link! Yeah, I agree that it was a bit slower than I'm used to hearing it sung. I was hoping for a little more emotion. But you're probably right; it wasn't a staged performance, so... Side not: Hrm, I don't know if everybody already knows about this link to Lea's blog. It's got lots of pictures, esp of her adorable kid. http://bigsis222.multiply.com/ |
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Eponine93 |
Thanks for that link! Has she even started reherasals? It wasn't the best that I've heard Lea but still was pretty great, much better than Daphne and a lot of the recording Fantines. The vibrato was just a tad bit too heavy on the high notes, but that's Lea's style. It needs to be worked on but I think she is going to do a lot for the Broadway production. | ||||||||
The Very Angry Woman |
Not until after Valentine's. http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2007/02/03/life/jed.madela.guests.in.lea.s.valentine.concert.html |
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LesMisForever |
TVAW...are you a journalist by any chance? You always readily refer to some kind of publication. | ||||||||
The Very Angry Woman |
At the moment, I work in the design capacity, but I have been a writer. Before that, though, I'd always been able to find things very easily. |
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Colle |
I thought Lea's IDAD was pretty good, and I thought she did show some emotion. I am sure she will get even better. Fans, I believe, I have come to have high expectations of Lea. | ||||||||
Dash |
Wow, I cannot believe how good she still sounds! This will be my first time seeing Lea Salonga, who in my eyes, is a true legend..assuredly my favorite female singer. Does anyone know what day she has off, if any? I got tickets for a Thursday night. Hope I'm not screwed. Daphne was rather terrible. Although lea's not playin Eponine (Wishful thinking) its still enough of a suprise to see her as fantine and truly something i honestly could never expect to see happen again. les mis even returning at all was a great thing. also..
THANK YOU. CORRECT. |
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The Very Angry Woman |
Most Fantines don't take a day off a week, so there's no fixed way to be sure who you're seeing. But if you do miss her, you'll see Nikki Renee Daniels or Haviland Stillwell -- the role is in very good hands. |
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Dash |
Perhaps so, but when you've seen the show 26 times and Lea's your favorite, you do get concerned. | ||||||||
The Very Angry Woman |
How can Lea be your favorite if you haven't even seen her in the role yet? |
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Lazarus (Adam G) |
Second sight? |
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Moci |
According to her blog "I'm getting some messages regarding my performance schedule and for how long my run in Les Miz is going to be. So, just to clear things up, I will be doing all the shows on any given week (unless I'm ill or injured), and will be in the production until the end of its run, whenever that is. Right now, it's been extended through the summer. Let's see if it goes on longer." |
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Dash |
I said she was my favorite female singer in a previous post, I was reiterating that. Moci, thanks for the perfect info. |
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NurseCodeBlue |
Was the old link from the "Sharon" show?
I think her voice has matured nicely, and the voice training paid off. Now if she can just get a stylist...
Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4VbS5LoOeg Youtube link to Lea on the "Sharon" show. |
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NoOneMournsTheWicked |
DRV was okay as Fantine, definitely far from my favourite. I want to be in tears at the end of IDAD, and she didn't even...move me.
Lea Salonga, though she's not my favourite Eponine (I'm really partial to Sutton Foster), I think she'll make a good Fantine. I just hope I get to see the show again with her in it. |
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Eponine93 |
I actually think Lea's going to make a great Fantine because 1. she's a mother, and 2. the part is more similar to Kim in Miss Saigon then Eponine is, and we all know she made a great Kim. She actually can sing without sounding like she's hurting herself, as opposed to some Fantines I can mention. I just don't think DRV is suited for any musical outside of a rock opera.
I'd really like to see a revival of some classic musical where all the performers were primarily rock artists. It could be interesting. I feel DRV could have made a good Fantine but her voice type didn't fit in with the rest of the actors in the show. |
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The Very Angry Woman |
That actually was very similar to a rumor I heard about a year and a half ago about the revival -- it was initially going to have more rock-sounding performers and an overall stronger rock feel. I guess that really only panned out with Drew Sarich and Daphne. |
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Orestes Fasting |
By the way... if anyone who can get to NYC on short notice wants to see someone besides Daphne and Lea, Nikki Renee Daniels is on this week, and second understudy Haviland Stillwell will be performing on Saturday evening. | ||||||||
Eponine93 |
Are good tickets available off the TKTS boards? | ||||||||
NoOneMournsTheWicked |
My BF got our tickets of off TKTS and they were really good seats. |
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The Very Angry Woman |
http://www.tdf.org/TDF_SupportPage.aspx?id=51&do=v | ||||||||
Electricity24601 |
I saw Nikki Renee Daniels yesterday and she was really good... a nice change from Daphne (that's me being nice ) And now I have an excuse to go again... I have to see Lea Unfortunately Aaron was out- he called in sick. I'm writing a review, I'll post it later if you guys would like to read it. |
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The Very Angry Woman |
Please do. I saw Nikki as Belle at Sacramento Music Circus, and I'd love to read more about her Fantine. Was Drew Sarich or Nehal Joshi on as Enjolras? |
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Orestes Fasting |
Probably not sick, actually; he has a neck injury, and has been performing with it since late December at least. He's staying on until April, but he and Drew Sarich have been alternating as Enjolras to reduce the strain on Aaron. No word yet on who's going to replace him--or Norm, who's apparently leaving to do the Little Mermaid. |
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Electricity24601 |
Drew Sarich. Not very good, in my opinion.
It did mean we got Stephen Trafton (a swing) as Grantaire who has really great. I talked to some stage hands about Aaron, and the way they phrased it it sounded like Aaron wasn't expected to be off until right before the show. I didn't know Norm was leaving... what role is he doing in Little Mermaid? And is Aaron leaving? That would make me sad. I'll definately post the review... I must warn you though, it's of epic proportions. Tis almost done. |
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The Very Angry Woman |
Oh, have you missed out: http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1052228.html |
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Electricity24601 |
Somehow I'm not so sorry I missed out on that argument |