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| olly |
Les Miserables - Au RevoirAs I'm sure as been widely recognised in musicals.net, Les Miserables is not going to be performed in Broadway anymore (unless I'm terribly mistaken ) Does this mean its going to be stopped in London (and all over the world for that matter)?
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| Jordan |
Nope, Cameron is definitely holding out for more than 21 years to beat Cats in London. | ||||||
| The Very Angry Woman |
Re: Les Miserables - Au Revoir
It closed on Broadway in May 2003. |
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| Quique |
SOB!!!!The production we all know and love, the Cameron Mackintosh production, does have its days numbered.To those who aren't so picky with detail and welcome other variations of the show, won't even notice most likely, but those of us who love this production and everything it stands for will be out of luck in about 2 at the very most 3 years time. 
My daughter is going away. SOB!!!! *Scratches walls* |
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| olly |
Ah, that explains it - I've looked back on all three articles on the internet - all have been aired 2003. Now, I understand that I am being extremely ignorant in the matter, however can you please help me discriminate between CM productions and non-CM productions? What about the London, Queen's Theatre one? How does one tell the differrence between Cm and non-CM productions (or they are probably advertised as CM productions...) Thanks |
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| The Very Angry Woman |
All the CM productions basically look very much the same. Look for Eponine's trench coat and hat, the rope around Gavroche's waist, the "Captain Crunch" coat Th�nardier wears in Act 1, the turntable, and nearly identical Rue Plumet gates. Compare any London photos with what you find on http://lesmis.cafemusain.com and http://www.broadwaylesmis.com, and you'll get a good idea as to what to look for. And of course London is a CM production -- that was the first city in which the English-language version was mounted! The very first professional productions of the show in most major cities around the world were produced by Cameron Mackintosh. For some that were non-CM (aka "non-replica"), look up photos of the Bonn, Germany and Karlstad, Sweden productions. There is a very big difference between those and the CM productions. |
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| olly |
Thanks! Brilliant - its great to actually know that I am being educated in the show. I feel as though I can have more valid opinions of the show... If that makes any sense whatsoever?! 
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| The Very Angry Woman |
Psst. Google is a good thing, too. |
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| Vicam |
I googled the Bonn production and wasn't able to find much, but I did find this: http://www.omm.de/veranstaltungen/musiktheater20002001/BN-les-miserables.html and was shocked by how different it looks.
I thought all the Les Mis productions around the world were CM productions, interesting to know they're not. Is it just that he'll give the rights to professional companies only and not the regional ones? |
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| The Very Angry Woman |
That's the one. Bonn was pretty funky. http://www.hardyrudolz.de/images_galerie/obenframe_szenenfotos2.html
It seems to depend on the country. Japan is still doing the CM production; I'm not sure if it's because the rights aren't available there, or they're just choosing not to do their own homespun version. Although come to think of it, the original Hungarian version was VERY different. It's featured in the Stage by Stage video. |
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| olly |
Psst. I'm complimenting you |
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| Janni |
There is a kind of semi-professional rights available out there. They give you the full score but let you create the scenery independently. That�s what�s been used in Hungary for the open air production, for a production in Prague and for the stadttheater productions in Germany too.
As for the Broadway run, in the last brochure CM wrote about "the first Broadway run coming to an end" so there may be hope for the future...let�s see what happens in 20 years-JCS is a good example for that. |
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| Quique |
Cameron Mackintosh Productions...A very easy way to distinguish between Cam Mack produced productions and non-Cam Mack ones - If the production has:
- Revolve - Mobile, tilting, interlocking barricade halves - Shuttered windows that light-up during "Look Down," "On My Own," and only two on the right-hand side of the set during the Rue Plumet sequence. Creative Team - Set designed by John Napier - Lighting design by David Hersey - Costume design by Andreane Neofitou Notice I didn't include director, sound designer, or anything else cause those do change. For example, Ken Caswell has directed most international productions. Tony Meola is credited as sound designer for the 3rd national tour in 1992 and 1996, while Andrew Bruce, the original sound designer is credited in 2000 onward. He was also credited throughout the 90's. Everything else changes every few years or so, depending on what it is. Exceptions - All Japanese productions: The Toho Organization purchased the rights to the show when it first opened in London. Those rights allowed them to mount the production, but only within the boundaries of their country. As The Very Angry Woman said, whether or not the contract included rights to redesign the show themselves, can't be confirmed but it's more than likely they've only been given producing and performance rights, not the right to change it in any way, shape, or form. All Japanese productions have been produced by the Toho Organization independantly, without Cameron's involvement and are all visually/technically identicle to the London and Broadway productions. 
Wearing Andreane Neofitou's classic Fantine design. 
As TVAW mentioned, every Cam Mack production uses John Napier's Rue Plumet gate design. 
David Hersey's spectacular lighting design. 
Any production that has a barricade identicle to this one, is definitely a Cam Mack production. The original Spanish barricade being the only exception, but that's a different story. 
Mounting the Japanese set, an exact replica of the one seen on/in Broadway/London. There have been some non-replica productions that Cameron has been involved with, the recent Czech production is a good example. I'll have to check on others since I'm either not sure or am almost sure but want to confirm first. ALL productions produced in English-speaking countries, up until 2000, were produced by Cameron. ALL productions use the original John Cameron orchestral score. |
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| Moci |
http://www.omm.de/veranstaltungen/musiktheater20002001/bilder/BN-les-miserables4.jpg What is going on between Javert and Valjean in this photo and what about the ribbons? It's like bad slash. |
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| Colle |
Unless something big like the end of the world happens, I believe Les Mis will be revived on Broadway eventually. All the great shows, and even some not so great ones, get revived. Wherever or not it will be a CM production probably remains to be seen. |
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| Janni |
Well that�s the Bonn way to show the chain gang, |
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| Moci |
Instead of doing manual work, did they untangle ribbons or something? And why is the barricade red? Interesting idea, but I feel like bursting into 'You've Gotta Get A Gimmick'. 
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| Janni |
The ribbons are the chains which hold them as labor slaves IIRC. They still did the work thing. In a Prague production they used real chains to hold the cons together. As for the barricade being red I have no clue...I think the director worked with certain colors as a guide through the play but that�s just a suggestion. | ||||||
| Quique |
Ugh...
It was actually hot pink, ugh. |
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| Fantine |
http://www.geocities.com/lesgraphiques/javertvaljean.html As I posted about six months ago
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| olly |
very good 
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| OldDeuteronomy |
Not quite. on the original Red & Blue Japanese Cast albums, "Bring Him Home" is lowered from A to G.but that's the only difference. |
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| Emperor of the Fiends |
With most actors, I imagine that would be a change for the better. |
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| Fantine |
Hehe. I see that you are using one of them now... but could you please upload the icon to your own webspace? www.photobucket.com is a nice place to host it. Otherwise you're stealing my bandwidth... |
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| olly |
I've made an account and tried adding the album through the URL, however it tells me that "one or more pictures are in an incorrect format", what do you suggest?
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| Aimee |
You need to save it to your own pc then upload it to photobucket from there, its VERY quick and easy.
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| Lesmiserables24601 |
Whoa ArtwankThis production looks a little art - wanky, but hey that may be a good thing for Les Miserables. I mean you could take the ribbon as a microcosm for the penal system, that it 'ties up' its prisoners and commit all acts of cruelty against them before spitting them out worse than they were before they entered. The Pink Barricade could be symbolic of the 'homosexual' revolution around the time of the emergence of the romantic period. Or then again I could be over - intellectualising. Cough
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| olly |
Great, I've put them all into my account in photobucket.com.. Thanks for them in the first place - they're very amusing 
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| Fantine |
Welcome. Now all you need to do is take the link from your own photobucket account and change the icon link in your profile. Thanks! Everyone- I'll use PM next time .
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