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bigR |
Well, I actually like this line very much. It's the only line that makes the barricade boys a little bit less slashy In the book they talk about women like normal young men, we know courfeyrac is a bit of a playboy; bahorel, laigle and joly have mistresses; prouvaire is always in love (so, very IC he has the "pretty girls" line); grantaire chases women all around and knows the best brothels in paris... but in the musical it is all "revolution-revolution-revolution". And the pretty girls who went to their heads would have being too platonic on its own... Ok. maybe the line would have suited courfeyrac too, but I find it very IC for Joly. He may be an hypochondriac but he is not a wuss like Marius! I mean, we know he has a mistress. And he does not strike me at all as someone who is shy around women since just before the barricade he playfully kisses mme. hucheloup on the neck. |
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lesmisloony |
It's the pluralisation of "girls" that bothers me, if that line must be given to Joly. I see him as a pretty faithful (to Musichetta--and Bossuet?) guy. But I don't see why any of the other students, especially Combeferre, couldn't have had the one line. | ||
curlyhairedsoprano91 |
Well, they use it twice in the musical ... "I let her go for a song" in Rue Plumet, and, earlier, "Lovely ladies/ going for a song/ got a lot of callers but they never stay for long." |
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soph-les-mis |
Terribly sorry if this has come up before, but what is Valjean singing after Fantine sings: "You raised my child with love"? It sounds like he's saying "She's the worst of my life" ?! Especially in the TAC version with Colm Wilkinson singing it..
I guess I could check it out somewhere, but I though someone here would have a clue.. it really bugs me! |
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mastachen |
"She's the best of my life."
Total opposite of what you thought you heard...lol |
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Fantine |
MELIARA! Where have you been!? |
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Futuretonywinner |
I don't like it when Eponine says "I think of him and then I'm happy with the company I'm keeping." Just the part about company I'm keeping. It just doesn't sound like Eponine. Other than that I love it all. | ||
lesmisloony |
None of the musical really sound like Eponine, though.
*runs away bafore starting that topic again* |
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Orestes Fasting |
Do we need another dead horse thread devoted entirely to Eponine? I swear to god I'll make one if another thread gets derailed by everyone feeling the need to give their opinions on the scrawny little rat. | ||
lesmisloony |
NO I'M SORRY I WON'T DO IT AGAIN I PROMISE!
None of these smilies look anxious... Um, slightly more on-topic, but not a whole lot... I really like "I Saw Him Once." Why was it cut? |
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soph-les-mis |
Yeah, I knew he couldn't be singing "worse".. Well, then I think mr. Wilkinson should care a bit more about his pronounciation.. (I do like his singing though ) |
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soph-les-mis |
I know! the two of them is really hard to figure out what they say, unless you know the lines by heart.. (or maybe it's just me, not having English as my first language.. ) |
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Fantine |
When I was nine I had the hardest time with figuring out what the TAC actors were saying (English is not my native language either, but I'm sure most of you know that already). I cannot even start listing all my misheard lyrics because it would be too long a list. And quite weird too, since I kind of "invented" words sometimes.
"And meet the best inn-keeper in town" became: "And be the best and keep her in town" (as in: keep her in line, sort of like that. It probably seems really silly but if you don't know any better....) |
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Quique |
^ lol. that's really cute. | ||
curlyhairedsoprano91 |
I like it too, kind of a lot. I don't know why it was cut ... it's so fun to sing. |
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mezzo_soprano |
On the topic of lines that bug you, In the international Valjeans on the TAC, the first one sings, "When the beating of your heart echos the beating of a drum"
I don't know why but it annoys me. |
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mastachen |
Maybe it annoys you because that's not the right lyrics? | ||
mezzo_soprano |
Yup | ||
curlyhairedsoprano91 |
I've always been bothered by "It was your cry / Sent them away / Once more 'Ponine / Saving the day." But I don't know why. | ||
lesmisloony |
I was playing the sing on piano yhr other day, and I had to ask myself why it takes Marius so long to GTFO. Eponine just screamed, probably waking up half the neighbourhood, but he wants to stick around and introduce her to Cosette first? | ||
Moci |
I remember seeing Hadley Fraser play it as if he was only introducing Eponine to Cosette because she was hanging around and screaming and hedidn't want to leave Rue Plumet, so Cosette (Helen French, I think) was practically having to push him over the wall. Of course, it could have just been that he was having trouble climbing it that night. |
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lesmisloony |
Squee! That sounds amazing.
Good Cosette, having the sense in the group. |
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curlyhairedsoprano91 |
Haha, loves it!
"Seriously. I love you, but get out of here and take that toothless chick with you." |
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lesmisloony |
soprano, I know I just said this in another topic, but ILU forserious. |
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Fantine |
You know, I have never really thought about that. | ||
LittleGavroche |
I can't stand in "Confrontation" when Valjean sings "Beware, Javert" it's just could they be any more obvious with that rhyme? | ||
lesmisloony |
http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/lesmiserables/confrontation.htm
...when does he say that? |
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EponineMNFF |
That's what I was thinking. O.o | ||
LittleGavroche |
I had noticed it in a recent school edition I saw, must've been a mistake. |
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lesmisloony |
Hahaha, school editions...
That explains it sufficiently, I'd say. |
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bigR |
I just realized it while talking about the july revolution in another thread:
Turning: "never held a gun". Yes, sure... because in july 1830, when even gravroche had a gun, enjolras, bahorel, courfeyrac or combeferre were probably at home sipping tea and wondering about all the shouting and firing below their windows... And, it is not exactly a line, but why does precisely Feuilly always have to be the more elegantly dressed of all the barricade boys? |
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Orestes Fasting |
That always bugged me about Feuilly. I mean, I understand why he's not in workman's clothes--the female ensemble members are already dressed as workmen in DYHTPS because it's easier to pull off drag that way. But I don't understand why they couldn't at least have given him shabbier clothing than the other barricade boys.
I also think a lot of the bitching and moaning about how they were all going to die from the start, idealism is hopeless, why did they throw their lives away, blah blah blah, is founded in a basic ignorance of contemporary affairs. In June 1832, it hadn't even been two years since they'd had a revolution that worked. Maybe it hadn't ended the way they wanted to, but 1830 was about as far from a pointless bloodbath as you can get. There was absolutely no reason to believe in 1832 that another revolution would mean throwing their lives away or anything stupid like that. |