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Phanom

You know you're obsessed with Javert when you join this forum right after seeing this thread Smile
curlyhairedsoprano91

Phanom wrote:
You know you're obsessed with Javert when you join this forum right after seeing this thread Smile


Welcome! Applause
Phanom

Thanks! I'm a big fan of musicals, Les Miserables is with no doubt at my top list Smile
Bramblefox

Phanom wrote:
Thanks! I'm a big fan of musicals, Les Miserables is with no doubt at my top list Smile


Excellent! *huggles* Welcome to the forum!
sitarchlescaptress

.....you got an account just so you could post on this thread. (guilty)
Ello all fellow Javert/Les Mis fans! *waves*
Mr. Green
lesmisloony

Welcome!

(Can you fix the French in your sig? "Vous ne savez rien de Javert" and "Vive le French Toast"? Sorry, I'm nitpicky... and someone else might come through and correct my French, but that's acceptable.)
sitarchlescaptress

Thankee kindly! *bows* Very Happy Sorry about the French. *grins sheepishly* I used a translator and those things don't always come out the right way. Thanks for the correction!
lesmisloony

Haha, always happy to boss people around... Wink

(But I'm looking at it now and wondering if it shouldn't be "Vous ne savez rien du Javert?" Maybe somebody like Orestes will step in and straighten me out. *awaits*)
sitarchlescaptress

lesmisloony wrote:
Haha, always happy to boss people around... Wink

(But I'm looking at it now and wondering if it shouldn't be "Vous ne savez rien du Javert?" Maybe somebody like Orestes will step in and straighten me out. *awaits*)


Lol! We'll me wee braw lassie I don think I'll be changing it again. If ya must, just blindfold yourself whenever I post anything so you'll be spared the agony of me rotten grammar. Wink Ay and if ya wish ya may send the Inspector to arrest me. Mr. Green
lesmisloony

Hahaha, that's fine. I'll just pretend I'm sure it's right. Thanks for putting up with my nitpickings with such good spirits. Wink
Orestes Fasting

lesmisloony wrote:
Haha, always happy to boss people around... Wink

(But I'm looking at it now and wondering if it shouldn't be "Vous ne savez rien du Javert?" Maybe somebody like Orestes will step in and straighten me out. *awaits*)


In the French lyrics it's "Tu ne sais rien de Javert."

And I try to stay away from this thread because it scares me. In the bad way.
Brunnhilde

Orestes: the Inspector was mad, as Valjean kindly said. *stalks to kill Valjean for this*
So don't wonder if his topic is scaring. Twisted Evil

YKYAOWJW:

You spent half a day with Sythar, playing a "Javvie & Vidocq talk" RP.

You use to keep Javvie in tormented mode.
Orestes Fasting

Javert might have been mad by the end, but that madness didn't extend to treating a police inspector like some sort of anime bishounen. ("Javvie?" Really? I think I'm about to vomit.)
sitarchlescaptress

lesmisloony wrote:
Hahaha, that's fine. I'll just pretend I'm sure it's right. Thanks for putting up with my nitpickings with such good spirits. Wink


Hehe That works to. Very Happy Salright! I'm sure if I new French I would be the same way. Laughing

YKYOWJW

You watch the TAC and pause it whenever you see the faintest glimpse of Philip Quast in the background and have memorized his every move.

Your family knows all of Javert's songs because you constantly sing them at the top of your lungs....to their great annoyance. Dancing Mr. Green
curlyhairedsoprano91

Haha, I agree with Orestes a little bit. I read the thread for amusement ... but "Javvie" has inadvertently traipsed into the realm of "OMG WTF?"
Brunnhilde

Orestes: then don't call Enjolras Enjy, dearie. And don't make poor virgin screw with 'Ferre. Oh, and blame EVERYBODY who says Javvie, not just me.

H�lye picsa.

And besides, first I hated the thought to give a nickname to the Inspector, but I hear it too often. And he's not treated like a *beep* anime bishie.
Hey, Javvie is still better than Snookums. *facedesk*
Bramblefox

^^Ah yes, the infamous 'Snookums'. Believe it or not, I found a person with the last name of 'Snook' who played Javert. Talk about weird.

YKYOWJW:

--You talk about snuff so much your older brother buys you some and actually uses it once, much to his chagrin. (True story! No joke! Apparently the stuff really burns when you inhale it.)

--Your dad hears you talk so much about the 'Lawr' not being mocked that he makes really bad puns about it (case in point: the cole-SLAW is not mocked'. Yeah. A comic is in order.)
lesmisloony

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Orestes: then don't call Enjolras Enjy, dearie.


Actually, I have to say Applause to that. Just calm down, everybody! No one's actually going to force Javert to wear a tutu and dance for their amusement! We're all intelligent people here and we all know what Javert is really like. Seriously, what would a fandom be without fangirls screaming about wanted to cuddle a character who isn't the cuddling type? *points to own banner*

Honestly, we've all seen "Javvie" used before. This thread isn't exactly groundbreaking.
Brunnhilde

I think the Inspector would arrest all fangirls. Laughing And Enjolras would use the Glare o' Death on them. Poor heroes. They are lucky they are dead. Twisted Evil

Sometimes I wonder why doesn't have, for example, Th�nardier fangirls? Or silly nicknames? He's so underrated, poor greedy rat.
curlyhairedsoprano91

Thenardier has no fangirls because he has no attractive qualities. Simple as that. Smile But seriously ... it's why Valjean has fewer fangirls, as well. I <3 Valjean but it's harder to fangirl a semi-saintly old man.

lesmisloony wrote:
No one's actually going to force Javert to wear a tutu

I'm Old Gregg ...
Orestes Fasting

lesmisloony wrote:
We're all intelligent people here and we all know what Javert is really like.


I'll believe that when I see some evidence of it.

And no, melodramatic posts about how Hugo was omg wrong for not making Valjean throw himself into the Seine after his dead gay lover don't count as evidence.

P.S. When the f**k was I ever in the habit of calling Enjolras 'Enjy'?
Brunnhilde

Valjean has fangirls. Not much, but he has some. Embarassed White hair is attractive. (That's why I fangirl Connery, too.)
lesmisloony

curlyhairedsoprano91 wrote:

lesmisloony wrote:
No one's actually going to force Javert to wear a tutu

I'm Old Gregg ...


soprano. I really love you. Can you SEE into my MIND.
Quique

This thread is more twisted than anything ever created by Eppieboppers. LaughingRazz

*Hides from rabid, 'Javvie' fangirls'*
lesmisloony

You know, Javert is certainly NOT my favourite character--probably not even in the top ten--but I read this thread because I like lulz and I like the people who post here.
Bramblefox

lesmisloony wrote:
You know, Javert is certainly NOT my favourite character--probably not even in the top ten--but I read this thread because I like lulz and I like the people who post here.


*bows* Thank you, Loony. At least someone understands our twisted minds...*adopts melodramatic long-suffering pose*

I suppose I should take that allusion to the Eppie-boppers as a compliment, Quique...I guess...*looks around shifty-eyed*
Brunnhilde

*hugs Loony* *hugs Brablefox* *tries to hug the Inspector*

A lot of people ask: "What can you like in a middle-aged, obsessive, suicidal policeman?"

They could also ask what I like in a certain old, one-legged, obsessed madman who hunts a *beep* whale. Or what I like in an old, pyromaniac, obsessed Palantir-addict. Or what I like in a greasy-haired, sarcastic double agent.
They are well-written, not evil, not good, but men with flaws. And all of them end badly. Twisted Evil I just like death in books.
Sythar

O.o
Wow. Things got heated while I was away. *hides*
Brunnhilde

YKYAOWJW:

- Your IMVU avatar's name is IAmTheLawr.

- He looks like... well, look at him.

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/copandcon/Les%20Miserables/IMVU_Javert_tophat.png

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/copandcon/Les%20Miserables/IMVU_Javert2.png

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/copandcon/Les%20Miserables/but_live_in_hell.png
curlyhairedsoprano91

He looks like. PKYonge!Javert. The one who looks like Lea Michele with a minimal testosterone injection.
Catherine

ahahahaaa, that's slashy Confrontation Javert isn't it?
He makes Drew's Javert look like a monk. XD

(Soprano, read Schmerg's Les Mis spoof at Abaisse)
Brunnhilde

I can't make it older Very Happy IMVU avatars alll look like girls Very Happy
Beeg manga eyes. Twisted Evil But he has sideburns!

Oh, PK Yonge Javert... total fun. Poor thing. Very Happy (S)he tries it reallly had, but Javert as an Elf? Laughing
Oh,m yes. Annoyinmouse made Valjean, and we can do... ahem... interesting things.
Embarassed

Yes, soprano, read it, it's hilarious. Razz Laughing
curlyhairedsoprano91

I have read. It's 100% lulzy and I wish she'd update, goddammit.
Bramblefox

What's Abbaisse? *feels terribly newbie*

YKYOWJW:

You get this really cool magazine that sells mens' hats, and drool over the ONLY top hat in the magazine (regrettably it's $100, without tax. Meh).
lesmisloony

Abaisse is a fantabulous Les Mis forum. Joiiiiin us.

http://abaisse.eta-carinae.net

(I just typed that from memory... I think it's right...?)
SylvieProuvaire

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I think the Inspector would arrest all fangirls. And Enjolras would use the Glare o' Death on them. Poor heroes. They are lucky they are dead.


If the fangirls behave like this, I don't think either Javert or Enjolras would diginify their actions with any sort of response. They would ignore them.

YKYOWJW

You respect and fangirl him for his qualities, and not hold him to your own cutesy-slashy-poor-baby vision or to the exagerated fandom-sterotype that seems to be running rampant on this thread.

I can understand the initial response of wanting to cuddle your literary crush, but after a while, shouldn't it evolve into a more intellectual interest in the character, not just their nightstick-of-doom or sideburns or trench coat?

(I don't want to seem condescending...I was never a Javert fan, but I used to be a rabid, really annoying Enjolras fan...all this was me a few years ago, but I've been growing out of it.)
Brunnhilde

Who said he is cute? Cute are the actors who do him. (Mostly.) But he? Never. He's too stren to be cute.

And I think, after 10+ years respect and be scared of Javert (when I knew only the book), I have right to adore him at last.

�s mellesleg megbaszhatod a kurva any�dat a v�r�s haj� francia pics�val egy�tt.
Sythar

SylvieProuvaire wrote:
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I think the Inspector would arrest all fangirls. And Enjolras would use the Glare o' Death on them. Poor heroes. They are lucky they are dead.


If the fangirls behave like this, I don't think either Javert or Enjolras would diginify their actions with any sort of response. They would ignore them.

YKYOWJW

You respect and fangirl him for his qualities, and not hold him to your own cutesy-slashy-poor-baby vision or to the exagerated fandom-sterotype that seems to be running rampant on this thread.

I can understand the initial response of wanting to cuddle your literary crush, but after a while, shouldn't it evolve into a more intellectual interest in the character, not just their nightstick-of-doom or sideburns or trench coat?

(I don't want to seem condescending...I was never a Javert fan, but I used to be a rabid, really annoying Enjolras fan...all this was me a few years ago, but I've been growing out of it.)


I could be completely wrong here, but I thought this thread was light-hearted and meant in good fun. Much like the 'Obsessed With Les Mis' thread. Smile

Oh - and I'm certainly aware of Javert's literary qualities. I am honestly a little bewildered at being considered rabid and really annoying. Shocked
SylvieProuvaire

If this thread on this forum were the only place, it would be one thing and I wouldn't complain, becase honestly? I know I don't have to click in this thread, but it's getting to feel like for me that most of the posts I've been reading lately on the forums I visit are about Javert and include this guy: Twisted Evil, even on unrelated threads and it's just been getting frustrating


And Sythar, I don't mean you, I'm sorry. ...I was sort of calling myself rabid when I first joined the fandom.

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�s mellesleg megbaszhatod a kurva any�dat a v�r�s haj� francia pics�val egy�tt


I'm sorry. I don't speak Hungarian, and I don't know what this means.
curlyhairedsoprano91

Brunnhilde wrote:
Who said he is cute? Cute are the actors who do him. (Mostly.) But he? Never.
Exactly. Speaking from personal opinion, Javert is not an "attractive" character, per se ... he is one, however, who has been played by many a very attractive actor. Therein lies the source of much of the fangirling, I think. It's not so much "OMG Javert so cute and cuddly" as the attractive aura exuded by the certain caste of "Javert actors." However, since it's not one particular actor that strikes the fancy, but the subgroup as a whole, it manifests itself as an adoration of the character.

Brunnhilde wrote:
And I think, after 10+ years respect and be scared of Javert (when I knew only the book), I have right to adore him at last.
Yup. If the fangirling only began after the musical, it seems not unlikely that it's rooted in what I said earlier ...

EDIT: I don't mean to say that nobody is attracted to or fangirls Javert solely based on the merits of his character in the book and the musical. I'm sure there are those of you here who are and do. I was simply going off my own opinions and Brunnhilde's post.
Brunnhilde

Soprano: finally somebody got it. *hug*

I never thought Javert can be attractive, till I saw TAC. As a child I found him frightening. I realized he was not evil, just... wrong all the time. And cold and cruel. Later I began to understand him, but love came only with Philip. Now I totally love him in the book, having badass lines and being cool in general.
I'm not fond of "beautiful" men (only Dmitri Hvorostovsky... but he is an angel), I prefer men who are tough guys, talk in cool lines (and talk few), ride, don't fear death and draw faster than any other. *hugs said heroes, and gives a kiss to Silenzio, because she loves poor mute assassin*

Sylvie, there are words in Hungarian what just can't be translated into English without loss.

Besides, what makes me different from any other Javert fan. I DON'T WANT him alive! I hate rescuing fics. It's his death what makes him a great character, and his final breakdown what makes him human.
SylvieProuvaire

It's not about whether you find Javert attractive or whatever. Sure, Javert is a cool character. And, sure, it's fine to like an attractive actor playing a character who isn't traditionally attractive. I don't mind people thinking what they want, but it's more the maturity level that bothers me.

Seriously, if someone else were acting like this over Eponine instead of Javert, you yourself would probably find it slightly annoying.

"And incidentally megbaszhatod the whore any�dat the redheaded French pics�val together."

...since this is all that came out when I attempted to use an online translator, which can be very inaccurate, I'm delaying being somewhat offended and asking you politely what it means.
lesmisloony

1. Saying things in another language that could be offensive and then refusing to even attempt to translate is bad form.
2. If one more person comes into this thread and tries to pick a fight I, not a Javert fan in the slightest but still protective of the right to be a silly fangirl, will go batshitcrazy, bust out Stabby McStabenstein, and kill you all. However, I do see the point that there have been a lot of weird Javert lustings in unrelated threads lately. But this is the place where that's okay, so back off.
3. Why are you people taking this thread seriously?

*scowls*
Brunnhilde

Because we were having fun here with a few fans before certain people came to attack us with all hatred.

Heh? This thread was made for fun. Some of you remind me to right-winged Hungarian policticians. Who are scary. Believe me, you don't want to know how scary.

Okay then, another word against Javert or anyone "I'm knowing-better" and I'll send them to bloody hell in English.
Orestes Fasting

*cheers Sylvie on*

If y'all let your gooshy fangirlishness spill out into the rest of the forum, why shouldn't we let our annoyance spill over into here?

And there is a difference between being an intelligent poster who allows herself a bit of silliness sometimes, and being an obnoxious immature fangirl all the time.
SylvieProuvaire

First, Lesmisloony, my point is pretty much what Orestes said. I'm not trying to pick a fight; I'm just a bit fed up at this point. And I think I've been as polite as I can on the subject.

...Please don't send Stabby to kill me. D:

Second, Brunnhilde
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Because we were having fun here with a few fans before certain people came to attack us with all hatred.


You are totally overreacting. Hatred, what? I've been trying really hard to edit my posts to keep them at least somewhat polite. And the thing is, it's not just here in this thread. If it was, then I just wouldn't read this thread, like I said.

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Heh? This thread was made for fun. Some of you remind me to right-winged Hungarian policticians. Who are scary. Believe me, you don't want to know how scary.


Sure, have fun on this thread. It just seemed to me like this was best place to address the spillage onto unnrelated threads since this seems to be where the madness originates.

And just so you know, I'm pretty liberal. I'm not trying to 'censor' anyone. So it seems pretty bogus that you are saying because I'm complaining that you've been spilling into unrelated threads about how much you adore Javert, that I am in any way similar to a scary right-wing politician.

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Okay then, another word against Javert or anyone "I'm knowing-better" and I'll send them to bloody hell in English.


I haven't said a word against Javert. Not one word.

And before you get so angry about 3 of my posts, try to think of what it's like, checking a favorite forum and only finding dozens of inane posts about Javert-lust and what-have-you. Because that's what we've been dealing with for a couple of months now.

And you know, you still haven't translated the Hungarian.

Thirdly, thank-you, Orestes.
Quique

Yeah, this situation is sort difficult to address because a.) It really isn't THAT big of a deal to begin with b.) There's no way of addressing it without coming off somewhat bitchy c.) Though it's not a huge deal, the outrageous fangirlishness is sort of off-putting. Makes me wonder why I haven't posted here as much as I used to.

And this is coming from someone who's posts are usually a bit on the weird, erratic side, lol. I don't really enjoy coming across so many posts that hammer one's erotic love for ANY character into my head every day. It was cute and actually quite amusing at first, but then it just gets creepy and overbearing. Had it been more sporadic, this thread wouldn't have degenerated to what it has. Just my 2 cents. Now let's all kiss and make up. Mr. Green
bigR

What really worries me is:
are they really people out there who get actually offended when someone else bashes their favourite fictional characters?

And I really want to emphasize the word "FICTIONAL".
lesmisloony

^ Well, yeah, of course there are.

*puts Stabby away*

Like I said, yeah, it's true that the "spillage" is frustrating... so I guess, being that I equally see both points but don't see how to help end the madness, I shall now sneak away from this argument.

*tiptoes out*
Sythar

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And Sythar, I don't mean you, I'm sorry. ...I was sort of calling myself rabid when I first joined the fandom.


Thanks Sylvie. I was a little confused there for a moment. Smile

lesmisloony wrote:
^ Well, yeah, of course there are.

*puts Stabby away*

Like I said, yeah, it's true that the "spillage" is frustrating... so I guess, being that I equally see both points but don't see how to help end the madness, I shall now sneak away from this argument.

*tiptoes out*


QFT[/quote]
MmeJavert

You Know You're Obsessed With Javert When --

You want to push him into the river yourself just to save him from his obnoxious fangirls who think he's some adorable bishie woobie and who just want to jump him.

You love him for who and what Hugo made him to be, not what fangirlism has turned him into.


Guys, he is the lawr and the lawr is not mocked and this level of fannishness is embarrassing.
Monsieur D'Arque

Javert Love is parody, not canon. Deal with it. Just like today's I Heart Snape culture, it is pure humor more than anything else.
Orestes Fasting

Monsieur D'Arque wrote:
Javert Love is parody, not canon. Deal with it. Just like today's I Heart Snape culture, it is pure humor more than anything else.


Except when people take it seriously. Then it stops being funny and starts being obnoxious.

(Incidentally, Sieglinde, did you think everyone here is incapable of using a dictionary? It's not that hard to find out that the reason what you said wouldn't translate well to English is because it contained at least three equivalents of the f-word.)
mastachen

Orestes Fasting wrote:

(Incidentally, Sieglinde, did you think everyone here is incapable of using a dictionary? It's not that hard to find out that the reason what you said wouldn't translate well to English is because it contained at least three equivalents of the f-word.)



Funny... and rude at the same time.
PqA

EPONINE!!!!1111!

I love eponine. She is the best character in the world!!! She is so funny and smart and I totally get her. I also love her songs in the musical. I can sing them really well, even though I'm a guy, and I learned ALL of her songs on piano, even though I can't read sheet music and that was the first time I'd ever played piano coz we don't have a piano coz I can't afford a piano. [/endpointproving]

Really, guys that's all we're fighting about here. It's rather silly. It seems that group one wants to express their love for Javert without persecution (Or is it prosecution... or maybe it's percussion. XD) and that group two doesn't want the entire forum cluttered with "OMG... JAVVIE!!!! *faints*." Because, as you saw, it only takes one post to really get annoying.

Neither of those seem like too much to ask. No one is being hateful to anyone, and if things stay in their proper place then it shouldn't be a problem. Just don't put something where it doesn't belong. (We learned that at around the age of 4, I'm thinking.) Really. Some of you are acting like this is the Continental Congress, or a human rights discussion. If you feel that passionate about it, then just do what you should. (Besides, much more of this and it'll get closed down by somebody, like all the other threads where people can't figure out when to stop-- and we wouldn't want that, would we, Javert lovers.)
SylvieProuvaire

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(Incidentally, Sieglinde, did you think everyone here is incapable of using a dictionary? It's not that hard to find out that the reason what you said wouldn't translate well to English is because it contained at least three equivalents of the f-word.)


No wonder it wouldn't show up in translations.

Very classy, Sieglinde. You just cussed out a teenager in a language they don't understand! What a fantastic way to refute your argument and to boost your own self esteem!

...And then you accuse me of being hateful. Wha?
Catherine

I love Sylvie. She's not hateful at all. It sounds like you're the one being a bit childish.

*backs out of the thread before she gets dragged in and attacked*
Orestes Fasting

SylvieProuvaire wrote:
No wonder it wouldn't show up in translations.


Online translators don't usually refuse to process curse words--I think the problem might be that Hungarian is a highly inflected language. I had to play around with chopping off the ends of words to get dictionary entries.

So Brunnhilde, help a language n00b out--am I the redheaded French expletive being referred to, or is that phrase being used in some other way?
SylvieProuvaire

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I love Sylvie. She's not hateful at all.


Aww, thanks!
lesmisloony

Catherine! I know you know this, but I could stare at your new user pic allll day.
Bramblefox

So, back on subject...

YKYOWJW:

You want to name your next dog after him (*cheers for German shepherds*)...but le parents are totally against it. Phooey.

Thanks for the Abaisse site, Loony...just signed up for it. Very Happy
Vice

- You realize with very little effort you could put off a Quast!Javert cosplay... from the shoulder up. (And still consider it.)
Brunnhilde

Don't know what explective is, but the word you mean is a phrase on women what English doesn't use as I see. It is something like "hussy" but not exactly.

YKYAOWJW:

You get angry when fellow citizens say you're too obsessed. God, I began to be as ill as my poor friend Nina - although she was obsessed with a Russian singer, for ten years. Now she hates him. I made her a Mizzie - now she likes Christian M�ller.

Honestly, did I obsess him in other topics? I didn't even notice. But I fear when I just mention his name everyone says it's obsession. I need cure, or I just need to go and get another version of the Ring, to get a little out of this fandom.
Orestes Fasting

No, do go ahead and give us a rough translation of the whole sentence. I won't deduct points if it doesn't capture the lovely nuance of Hungarian cuss words. Although I do wonder what on earth made you think it's okay to call another poster a f**king hussy and hope she doesn't understand what you just said.

And since you didn't seem to understand the first, second, or third times, I'll say it again: nobody is hating on Javert. Nobody is telling anybody not to be obsessive. A lot of people are pretty fed up with having their forums spammed by idiotic posts about how much you lust after the woobiefied bishounen Javert you've created in your head.

And if you dare to tell me I'm being "mean" or "oppressive" for telling you the straight truth, after what you said to Sylvie, you're a goddamn hypocrite.
SylvieProuvaire

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You get angry when fellow citizens say you're too obsessed


This doesn't even have anything to do with being obsessed with Javert. It just shows you are overly defensive and have a bad temper. jsyk.
Brunnhilde

Okay then, plase, quote me WHEN did I say he's a bishounen or woobie-what.

I hate bishounens, hate cute fluffy boys in general, and am fond of men.

Want a translation? Wordly?

[mod edit: please do not swear at other members]

Edit: I hope it won't disappear now.

You made me an Enjolras-hater, thanks, Orestes.

For those who love the pairing: you know where to find me.

For those who don't: hell is that way.
SylvieProuvaire

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Okay then, plase, quote me WHEN did I say he's a bishounen or woobie-what.

I hate bishounens, hate cute fluffy boys in general, and am fond of men.


The thing is that you never outright call him any of that, but you imply it like crazy. I mean, even when it's things like calling him Snookums and Javvie more than Javert in conversations.

Oh, and by the way...
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Yes, Lucien is selfish and bishie and uke and fluffy. I hope he gets what he deserves... a sado!Vautrin and some suffering in general. But he's such a lovely candy. I want to play with his golden hair.


You said this on Abaisse. Not about Javert, but it would seem to undermine your argument about hating bishies.

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You made me an Enjolras-hater, thanks, Orestes.

How dare you say something like that? The way you've been parading how much you adore Javert is 10x beyond what is appropriate, and enough to make anyone dislike Javert, makes you incredibly hypocritical!

Marianne doesn't post the way you do. She talks about Enjolras, because he's oe of her favorite character, yes, but when it's appropriate. And when she does, it's NOT about 'teh red vest' or call him Enjy or talk about how cute he and Grantaire would be, which is the equivelent of what you're doing with Javert.

Besides, Marianne does so much for this fandom in terms of translating lyrics and doing research, but you? You don't do anything else besides go on and on about Javert, and things that aren't even related to the fandom.

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For those who love the pairing: you know where to find me.

For those who don't: hell is that way.


FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, NO ONE IS HATING ON JAVERT OR JAVERT/VALJEAN! Why can't you understand this????

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Want a translation? Wordly?

Otherwise, you [Sylvie] can fu.ck your whore mother along with the redhead french bitch. [that's you, dearie]


Well, at least you finally had the guts to take responsibilty for your own words. I can't believe you'd call me or Marianne hatefully after posting something like that.
mastachen

Are you implying that hell is for people who don't love Valjean/Javert pairing or it's full of such pairings? Because either way you slice that bread, that's kinda pretty f*cked up.

And it is pretty hypocritical to even attack other people when you're spewing insults that can get you automatically banned in a foreign language, and refuse to translate it until the people you are insulting calls you out on it.



On the other hand, this thread didn't make me like Javert any less, and he's one of my favorite characters. But maybe that's just me.
Orestes Fasting

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FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, NO ONE IS HATING ON JAVERT OR JAVERT/VALJEAN! Why can't you understand this????


I think she understands perfectly; she's just spewing any insult or argument she can think of in the hopes that some of them will stick. Or maybe she just assumes that everyone thinks the way she does--that if you dislike someone you automatically hate their favorite character, and that liking a character involves squealing over how hawt he is and calling him diminutive nicknames.

Quote:
Okay then, plase, quote me WHEN did I say he's a bishounen or woobie-what.


Do you want me to drag up that thread on Abaiss� where you were talking about Javert and the other policemen acting like teenage girls in the cafeteria? Because I'd be happy to do so if the admin hasn't deleted it out of sheer disgust.

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Edit: I hope it won't disappear now.


Maybe you should have thought of that before you said it in the first place.
Quique

The posts didn't make me hate Javert either, but they did give me the heebie jeebies due to creepiness factor. I mean, how many times can one take banners that imply Javert and Valjean screw each other in the tush? Awwwwwwkward.
SylvieProuvaire

My point isn't that her posts make people dislike Javert; it's that if she acts that way about Javert, how can she blame Marianne for making her hate Enjolras.
Orestes Fasting

SylvieProuvaire wrote:
My point isn't that her posts don't make people dislike Javert; it's that if she acts that way about Javert, how can she blame Marianne for making her hate Enjolras.


But don't you see, I oppressed her on the internet. Now she's going to have nightmares about the Enjolras in my avatar being meeeean to her, so she's going to hate him forevermore--and it will be all my fault that my darling pwecious Enjy is subjected to the ire of somebody who already called me a redheaded French tart.

Sarcasm aside, out of all the people on the forum, Sylvie is probably the least deserving of getting cussed out like that. She's kept a civil tongue in her head this whole thread when nobody would have blamed her for exploding, and frankly anyone that polite has got serious guts for staying in a thread this crazy.
bigR

I'm probably being redundant but I want to insist on the fact that Javert (or Cosette or Bamatabois, ot the second whore on the left) are all fictional characters.

I like to think that I have a lot of imagination, and I love roleplaying games, and I can spend even more time that our dear �ponine living inside my head, so I have no trouble understanding how at some point anyone may develop feelings for fictional characters.

But I insist: even if you have feelings for them, "they" don't have feelings, because they don't exist. There is no need to take the defense of any character from the Brick as if he was a member of your family or a close friend
The notion that someone can feel offended (and not in a playful way, but really offended) because someone else hates/critizices/insults a fictional character really creeps me out.

Seriously, I think that there is a line that defines sanity between

a) taking the side of a character in an intelligent or funny discussion, because it is interesting or because you love a book, and it is nice to discuss the character's actions, or make jokes about them, critizise the characters you dislike, and

b) hating/insulting real people because they say things that you don't like about your favourite characters.
Bramblefox

Excellent point, bigR. People, can we please just quit fussing like a bunch of toddlers and get over it?? (to quote my dad: 'can't we all just get along??') Honestly, there are some members who are blowing what they perceive as character-bashing WAY out of proportion. Think of it this way: the characters themselves probably would totally ignore these 'insults', so why get all upset 'for' them? It's really not that big of a deal. We all need to get thicker skin and to stop being children about this.
SylvieProuvaire

*gestures to third to last post* Hey, thanks, Marianne! Smile

Also, Bramblefox, I really have to say that Javert is a great name for a German Sheperd. Smile
Sarchale

........

This is the first time I've ever been on a chatboard....

I'm afraid I'll mess it up. Embarassed

Sylvie, I like your way of viewing things, and I thank you for trying to keep the peace, so to speak, around here. I also thank (god, I sound like a politian giving a speech!) everyone else for being nice. Smile

You know you're obsessed with Javert when...

1)You have to scour the web to find fics/fanart, because you've read/looked at all the stuff in the public places. (Guilty!)
2)You had a three month infatuation with POTO, and your parents are terrified that instead of wanting to don a cape and mask and become a hermit, you'll want to dress up in your dad's trench coat and go on patrol.
lesmisloony

Welcome to the board, Sarchale! Don't worry, it's not usually like... that...
Quique

Sarchale wrote:
........

This is the first time I've ever been on a chatboard....

I'm afraid I'll mess it up. Embarassed




You just messed it all up!!!! Twisted Evil

GO AWAY. You are NOT wanted here!!!!!!!!! Mad








J/K Smile

Welcome!!!
Mr. Green
Sarchale

Shocked

IT WORKED! Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green Very Happy Very Happy Surprised Surprised Razz Razz Very Happy Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green Smile


M'kay, happyfest over. Thanks a bunch!

YKYAOWJW...
You create an account just to post on a topic about him. (Once again, guilty!)
eponine5

I thought these might be appreciated here...Drew Sarich and Earl Carpenter:



Catherine

That first pic is adorable! NOT Valjean/Javert slash, its just cute!
XD
lesmisloony

Drew looks like that twerp from Saved by the Bell...
Catherine

I can't see the resemblence myself.

(AIM? like, now? I'm watching boosh live, so lets discuss)
mastachen

Since we're posting pictures of Drew:

Check out Drew Sarich as Grantaire and Aaron Lazar in the red vest.









Yummy!
Quique

Hahaha, that's hilarious!
Sarchale

Question Question Question

I'm a relative n00b at this fandom.... What was the importance of the pictures of the two guys? Embarassed
Mistress

Not much...somehow it got to the topic of Aaaron Lalzar, a fan favourite Enjorlas...the second guy just happened to be the pics w/him...he's a well-known Valjean.

Don't worry, I've been on the Les Mis forum for about a year, and I'm still a n00b with much of this stuff....
bigR

Sarchale wrote:
Question Question Question

I'm a relative n00b at this fandom.... What was the importance of the pictures of the two guys? Embarassed


it's kind of a slashy joke. don't worry if you don't catch it yet. you will need a little more time in the fandom and certain degree of craziness Wink
Orestes Fasting

Sarchale wrote:
Question Question Question

I'm a relative n00b at this fandom.... What was the importance of the pictures of the two guys? Embarassed


Aaron Lazar as Enjolras and Drew Sarich as Grantaire were known for onstage interactions that looked... not entirely straight, shall we say.
Sarchale

I seeeee............

Oh, and don't worry. I'm perfectly cray. 8D

Back on topic....

YKYOWJW:

Your room is fashioned after his office in Toulon, as seen in the '78 movie.
Sarchale

Sorry for the double post, but I just wanted to point out that my keyboard is being rebelious and not typing in the letter that sounds like a mixture of 's' and 'e'. Wow, that was a long run-on sentence.
Bramblefox

YKYOWJW:

--You ARE getting a German Shepherd/Lab mix puppy and you ARE naming him Javert. *squees* ONLY TWO MORE DAYS!!!

--You pretend that he lives in your closet...(and that Erik lives in your full-length-dresser-mirror, but we won't go there)

--You're dressing up like him for Halloween. And you don't even like Halloween.
lesmisloony

You're dressing up like Javert or the German Shepherd? Razz
EponineMNFF

Bramblefox wrote:
YKYOWJW:

--You ARE getting a German Shepherd/Lab mix puppy and you ARE naming him Javert. *squees* ONLY TWO MORE DAYS!!!

--You pretend that he lives in your closet...(and that Erik lives in your full-length-dresser-mirror, but we won't go there)

--You're dressing up like him for Halloween. And you don't even like Halloween.


PICTURES PLEASE. Of both the puppy and the costume! *Is obsessed with cosplay... and puppies*
Kragey

lesmisloony wrote:
You're dressing up like Javert or the German Shepherd? Razz


Or are you dressing the German shephard up like Javert?

...omgdothat!!!
Vice

Bramblefox wrote:
--You pretend that he lives in your closet...(and that Erik lives in your full-length-dresser-mirror, but we won't go there)

Very Happy AWESOME. (I do the Erik thing too... Razz)

...
The only Les Mis character I can draw without a ref pic is Javert.

And... I WISH I COULD PLAY HIM.... BUT I'M FEMALE. (Bah, that didn't stop revival!Pirelli...)
Bramblefox

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Pics comin' right up: http://picasaweb.google.com/molly.nolden/JavertLeChien?authkey=xRGIUnWPIQs#5259571213756851122

He's a German Shepherd/Lab mix, and his head looks very much like a lab. But he's still little so it's kinda hard to tell at this point...

I would very much love to dress the dog up like his namesake, but...hmm...*is getting ideas*

And the Javert-costume pour moi: http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q262/ErikandMia/099-1.jpg

I really like this picture, I think that I look like an assassin here. The only thing I am missing at this point is a top hat, which I was supposed to get yesterday, but I couldn't find a costume shop. Crying or Very sad
Sarchale

Bramblefox wrote:
YKYOWJW:

--You ARE getting a German Shepherd/Lab mix puppy and you ARE naming him Javert. *squees* ONLY TWO MORE DAYS!!!

--You pretend that he lives in your closet...(and that Erik lives in your full-length-dresser-mirror, but we won't go there)

--You're dressing up like him for Halloween. And you don't even like Halloween.


Uhhh..... *sheepish*

I've done all those things.....
EponineMNFF

CUTE PUPPY. OMG OMGOMGOMG. CUTE. PUPPY. *DIES*


And FIERCE costume! That's awesome! Les Mis cosplay is the best!
Stars

YKYOWJW:
-You watch Philip Quast sing Javert instead of doing your homework.
-You claw at your computer screen when PQ does something sexy (like breathing hard after singing Stars)
-You look for sites and forums online like these to confirm you are not alone
-You skip ahead in the book until there is a part with Javert
-You read Javert fanfiction and criticize the pairing (among everything else)
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