omgwowitscrazy
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ThenardierOur school is soon doing Les Miserables as our Fall Musical and I am interested in trying out for the part of Thenardier. I have seen the musical and that part is so hillarious and such a good character part (since I am a bit more interested in Acting then singing). I was thinking of doing the part with a slight english accent, similar to Alun Armstrong does. I don't want to go to similar to him though, because I dont wan't it to see like I am just mimicking someone else. But I think that aspect adds such a fun quality to the character. I don't know if it will make sense though, sense the play is supposed to be based in France and this is an english accent. I don't know. Let me know what you think. And if you have any other tips for trying out for the character let me know.[/i]
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The Very Angry Woman
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Re: Thenardier | omgwowitscrazy wrote: | | I don't know if it will make sense though, sense the play is supposed to be based in France and this is an english accent. I don't know. Let me know what you think. And if you have any other tips for trying out for the character let me know. |
Oh god, are we going through this again?
Where is this production?
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Quique
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I can tolerate the cockney accent used in British productions, but can't stand when American actors use it in U.S. productions. It's annoying.
For example, in the OBC recording, one of the three men that sing the opening lines of "Lovely Ladies" has a thick cockney accent while the other two don't. It clashes horribly and is just plain tacky. Don't do it. You'll confuse people who don't know the show too well.
Nick Wyman was one of the only cast members in the 10th anniversary Broadway production who used a cockney accent, and it got on my nerves like you won't believe. Ugh.
However, he toned it down significantly during the last two/three years of the show's original Broadway run. It was only then that I realized his Thenardier was actually really good.
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Angel-of-Music*
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i dont really understand the cockney accent in british productions, the recording of on my own i have is really really cockney, it sounds weird.
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kittengoespop
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Argh, TVAW's right, we just had a massive debate/discussion on this.
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The Very Angry Woman
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| kittengoespop wrote: | | Argh, TVAW's right, we just had a massive debate/discussion on this. |
And I'm sure we will again in 4 or 5 months. It's like Old Faithful. The Old Faithful of Stupid.
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herkind
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| Angel-of-Music* wrote: | | i dont really understand the cockney accent in british productions, the recording of on my own i have is really really cockney, it sounds weird. |
The cockney accent works in British productions because it shows class distinction the way argot would in French. One of my favorite parts of the OLC is the contrast between Frances Ruffelle and Rebecca Caine's voices.
Using a cockney accent in an American production doesn't make sense.
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Orestes Fasting
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| The Very Angry Woman wrote: | | kittengoespop wrote: | | Argh, TVAW's right, we just had a massive debate/discussion on this. |
And I'm sure we will again in 4 or 5 months. It's like Old Faithful. The Old Faithful of Stupid. |
Speaking of which, I think we're about due in for another Cosette vs. Eponine debate. 
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Quique
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Meh, I don't mind when members bring these things up over and over again.
Well, except for the Eponine vs. Cosette thing, which really is pretty damn old, lol.
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Orestes Fasting
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If we banned bringing up old discussions, we'd never have anything to talk about, would we?
But all the same, there are some things--Eponine vs. Cosette comes to mind, as does Lea vs. Frances--that should just be taboo because everyone but the n00bs is sick to death of them.
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Eponine93
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Have we ever had an Eponine vrs. Fantine discussion?
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music is my life!!!
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i feel the need to make a few points...:
see it live before you decide...
bad american english accents tend to really annoy me. what do other people do? ask the director. practise in both. REMEMBER: if you make the director laugh by doing a bad accent, it might be a good sign...
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The Very Angry Woman
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| Orestes Fasting wrote: | | If we banned bringing up old discussions, we'd never have anything to talk about, would we? |
Yes, we would, if we just relied on "What did you think of Drew Sarich as...?"
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Fantine
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| Orestes Fasting wrote: | | The Very Angry Woman wrote: | | kittengoespop wrote: | | Argh, TVAW's right, we just had a massive debate/discussion on this. |
And I'm sure we will again in 4 or 5 months. It's like Old Faithful. The Old Faithful of Stupid. |
Speaking of which, I think we're about due in for another Cosette vs. Eponine debate. |
You must agree though, that Eponine can take on Cosette any time. 'Cause 'Ponine is just totally AWESOME and she experiences exactly what I feel, all the time.
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Aimee
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Re: Thenardier | The Very Angry Woman wrote: | | omgwowitscrazy wrote: | | I don't know if it will make sense though, sense the play is supposed to be based in France and this is an english accent. I don't know. Let me know what you think. And if you have any other tips for trying out for the character let me know. |
Oh god, are we going through this again?
Where is this production? |
As this member only joined today, for him its not 'again'. Sorry to bore you but, with having a long lasting forum, we will get repeat threads/sujects many times. If they bother you please ignore them. Otherwise, please be your usual informative self. Thanks.
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LaurelDP
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Ask the director before you try an accent!
If you do the accent at a callback, and the director doesn't want it, it could lose you the part, no matter how good you may be!
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Orestes Fasting
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| Fantine wrote: | | Orestes Fasting wrote: | | The Very Angry Woman wrote: | | kittengoespop wrote: | | Argh, TVAW's right, we just had a massive debate/discussion on this. |
And I'm sure we will again in 4 or 5 months. It's like Old Faithful. The Old Faithful of Stupid. |
Speaking of which, I think we're about due in for another Cosette vs. Eponine debate. |
You must agree though, that Eponine can take on Cosette any time. 'Cause 'Ponine is just totally AWESOME and she experiences exactly what I feel, all the time. |
Psht. Eppie-bopper. Get out of my fandom and don't come back until you've read the book ten times, annotated it with sticky notes in the margins, and cross-referenced your notes with the original French edition.
(P.S. Cosette pwns.)
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The Very Angry Woman
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Re: Thenardier | Aimee wrote: | | The Very Angry Woman wrote: | | omgwowitscrazy wrote: | | I don't know if it will make sense though, sense the play is supposed to be based in France and this is an english accent. I don't know. Let me know what you think. And if you have any other tips for trying out for the character let me know. |
Oh god, are we going through this again?
Where is this production? |
As this member only joined today, for him its not 'again'. |
Maybe we need to institute a "lurk date." In which case, a join date does not mean someone is completely ignorant of what they could easily research before becoming a member.
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omgwowitscrazy
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Sorry to cause such a big difference of opions. I was just looking for tips for the audition, I didn't mean to seem ignorant or bring topics up.
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Orestes Fasting
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| omgwowitscrazy wrote: | | Sorry to cause such a big difference of opions. I was just looking for tips for the audition, I didn't mean to seem ignorant or bring topics up. |
Welcome to the forum. As you might have noticed if you'd lurked, the directions that topics veer off in often have nothing whatsoever to do with the original post.
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may
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| omgwowitscrazy wrote: | | Sorry to cause such a big difference of opions. I was just looking for tips for the audition, I didn't mean to seem ignorant or bring topics up. |
It's just the way it is in this world sadly (positive/negative people's responses). Good luck with your rendition of Thenardier. I've only ever seen the West End production where the cockney accent works very well. Best just to try some things out and run it by your director and see which works best for you and the production.
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Angel-of-Music*
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Is it better on the forums to post a new thread about an old topic to ask questions, or bring the old one back, i've seen people complain either way. it confuzzles me 
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Fantine
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| omgwowitscrazy wrote: | | Sorry to cause such a big difference of opions. I was just looking for tips for the audition, I didn't mean to seem ignorant or bring topics up. |
There is absolutely no need to apologise 
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