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olly	Video Clips I am desperately seeking Video Clips of Roger Allam or Philip Quast performing any of their songs (preferably 'Stars' or 'The Confrontation') This is because I wan't to see how they act it, so I can integrate it into my performance. Many Thanks
Fantine	I think you shouldn't base your performance on either of those, but on your own interpretation.
The Very Angry Woman	Re: Video Clips olly wrote: This is because I wan't to see how they act it, so I can integrate it into my performance. Translation: "I am a copycat with no original ideas."
olly	Re: Video Clips The Very Angry Woman wrote: olly wrote: This is because I wan't to see how they act it, so I can integrate it into my performance. Translation: "I am a copycat with no original ideas." "I am a bit** who can't understand that I enjoy their acting and want to see how they act the part." Lol, just let go If I want to have a look at how they portray the part, then I can. Doesn't mean that I'll "copy" it. You're saying no amateur actor bases their character on a previous?! GET REAL! They do - many do - Method actors And not just Method actors, but others who don't agree with all of Stanislavski's ideas. So, stop being a stuck up cow, and let me act the character how I want Many Thanks
RyanJ	Quick, you can still edit all that out. Just replace your post with, "You're right, I'm sorry, what do you recommend I do to better my performance?" EDIT: And sorry, but method actors live as their character would in real life, by experiencing what their characters go through themselves in order to get a better feel for them. Not watching other performances of other actors.
The Very Angry Woman	Re: Video Clips olly wrote: The Very Angry Woman wrote: olly wrote: This is because I wan't to see how they act it, so I can integrate it into my performance. Translation: "I am a copycat with no original ideas." "I am a bit** who can't understand that I enjoy their acting and want to see how they act the part." Lol, just let go If I want to have a look at how they portray the part, then I can. Doesn't mean that I'll "copy" it. You're saying no amateur actor bases their character on a previous?! GET REAL! They do - many do - Method actors And not just Method actors, but others who don't agree with all of Stanislavski's ideas. So, stop being a stuck up cow, and let me act the character how I want Many Thanks Nice backpedaling! A+++! will def do business w/again
Jordan	Re: Video Clips The Very Angry Woman wrote: olly wrote: The Very Angry Woman wrote: olly wrote: This is because I wan't to see how they act it, so I can integrate it into my performance. Translation: "I am a copycat with no original ideas." "I am a bit** who can't understand that I enjoy their acting and want to see how they act the part." Lol, just let go If I want to have a look at how they portray the part, then I can. Doesn't mean that I'll "copy" it. You're saying no amateur actor bases their character on a previous?! GET REAL! They do - many do - Method actors And not just Method actors, but others who don't agree with all of Stanislavski's ideas. So, stop being a stuck up cow, and let me act the character how I want Many Thanks Nice backpedaling! A+++! will def do business w/again TVAW... You are an ebayer, aren't you?
The Very Angry Woman	I could be.
Jordan	http://www.jokaroo.com/ecards/funny/weirdalebaysong.html
javertsw	Method acting isn't about basing on other performances, its basing it on other feelings that you can apply into your performance.
olly	javertsw wrote: Method acting isn't about basing on other performances, its basing it on other feelings that you can apply into your performance. Yes I know, sorry. Lol, I study him for A-Level and have an exam on him on Friday. I think it was late when I posted... But excluding them, I know many an actor and actress who study other performers to have a look at their techniques. What are all your views on Method actors and Stanislavski? I, personally, dislike most of his techniques, however there are some that I think are very useful when I am acting, such as Tempo-Rythm and Units and Objectives (Inc. Through Line of Action)
Aimee	Isn't one of the major things he reccomends research? Looking at old performances if available is doing just that. I see nothing wrong with it. I think what people are picking up on is the 'so I can integrate it into my performance' bit. It did sound like you were goig to copy them. Probably just a bad turn of phrase.
broadwaybaby246	poor guy... everyone is being so mean maybe if you had specified that it was research for a test or whatever people would have been nicer and aimee your so nice lol
what_the_heck013	olly wrote: What are all your views on Method actors and Stanislavski? Are you trying to change the subject? HAHA. Just kidding. You guys are such bullys. Wait a second, what am I doing in the Les Mis forum?
The Very Angry Woman	Aimee wrote: I think what people are picking up on is the 'so I can integrate it into my performance' bit. It did sound like you were goig to copy them. Probably just a bad turn of phrase. That's exactly what I was talking about.
The Very Angry Woman	what_the_heck013 wrote: olly wrote: What are all your views on Method actors and Stanislavski? Are you trying to change the subject? HAHA. Just kidding. But I think you had a good point there.
happyguava	Research is a very useful tool in acting. If you can see a wide variety of how different people portray a character, it gives you a feel for the character and how other people see them. There's a big difference between that and "copying" someone else's performance. Quote: Translation: "I am a copycat with no original ideas." Maybe Olly does need to get some ideas. Wacthing someone else can get the ball rolling, and get you thinking!!
javertsw	I have mixed feelings on method acting. I agree with some it. However, I feel you would need a great deal of life experience to be able to do it well, which is something that not every actor can have. There is no way I could use my own experiences to play Fantine, for example, but I could imagine being her- which is much more effective, I think. I only know a bit about Stanislavski... I'm nowhere near an expert.
olly	Thank you everyone for seeing why I want to see these performances. My Drama teacher suggested it, and I thought it was an idea as I can build many ideas up of the character. But thank you as you all understand why. Anyway, I think it'd fairly difficult to copy a performance exactly? I've always researched into my characters, even into really obscure ones that have been professionally performed only a long time ago.
Timmy_Wishes he was Quast	As i have played many roles (see below) i feel that the best performances are always obtained by looking at the way someone else has played it before. This is because you think...OMG...i kant believe they killed it just like! It helps you avoid distaster. Its impossible to copy someone if you ask me...my performances are all orignal. YES YES i will admit that when i performed Les Mis at points i was blatently taking inspriation from Alun Armstrong but why re-invent the wheel if someone has done it a certain way to great aclaim, why not rip them off a little? But for god sake throw in your own twist, i made Thenardier a little more camp than usual and the gril playing my wife...we mocked religion alot more, as well as hurting variuous chorus members on the way!! I encourgaed the use of an outeragously huge pink wig for "The Wedding" (ask if you'd like to see this in film or picture form), in order to make me "different"! People, what you have to understand is that there are raely any "original interpretaions of a song/performance. Come on lets not even pretend that every VJV when he gets to Bring him home isn't saying "Please dear god, just this once let me sound like Colm Wilkinson". But all you have to do is look at the many recordings of Les Mis. Note Debbie Bryne and Patti LuPonne, they sound sucpsiouly alike at stages. And Lea Salonga, has elements of Ruffelle and Shimada in her voice. And Micheal Maguire on the TAC is obviously trying to emulate the power of Warlowe...not going to happen. And every single Maruis is trying to be Micheal Ball. And every Javer Philip Quast (see Micheal McKarthy)! Its all give and take, with a little bit of your own twist. (and now i've used all my waffling for the year i'm going to lay down!)
The Very Angry Woman	Timmy_Wishes he was Quast wrote: People, what you have to understand is that there are raely any "original interpretaions of a song/performance. Come on lets not even pretend that every VJV when he gets to Bring him home isn't saying "Please dear god, just this once let me sound like Colm Wilkinson". But all you have to do is look at the many recordings of Les Mis. Note Debbie Bryne and Patti LuPonne, they sound sucpsiouly alike at stages. And Lea Salonga, has elements of Ruffelle and Shimada in her voice. And Micheal Maguire on the TAC is obviously trying to emulate the power of Warlowe...not going to happen. And every single Maruis is trying to be Micheal Ball. And every Javer Philip Quast (see Micheal McKarthy)! Its all give and take, with a little bit of your own twist. I should mention, I do know of an actor who worked with Colm Wilkinson. He noticed the more he hung around Colm, the more he ended up inadvertently sounding like him, and he tried his best NOT to. If "every single" Marius were trying to be Michael Ball, I wouldn't bother to see the show. I disagree with you completely -- not so much your weak reasoning, but moreso, the fact that you're putting words into actors' mouths.
Timmy_Wishes he was Quast	It depends on your interpretaion of the actor! And your name is remarkably approrpiate!
The Very Angry Woman	Thank you! You are a unique individual! How is the exclamation point on your keyboard! How many do you go through a month!
Kragey	The Very Angry Woman wrote: I should mention, I do know of an actor who worked with Colm Wilkinson. He noticed the more he hung around Colm, the more he ended up inadvertently sounding like him, and he tried his best NOT to. In my personal opinion, sounding like Colm Wilkinson is a fate worse than death.
olly	I love his voice, he's made 'the' voice for Jean Valjean, but can obviously understand why people dislike his voice.

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