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Mistress |
Wow!...I just finished watching Le MizI rented it from the public Library...it was the 10th anniversy concert version, so I dopn't think it was the actual show...but I was blown away!!!! Colm Wilkinson can't even be matched in his performance as Val Jean...Michael Ball was alos wonderful, as wer Eponine and Javert (can't remember their names right now) I cried like 3 times!! I cried when Eponine died, during Colm's "Bring him Home" and at the end. And it was only a concert!!! I was just wondering if 1. the actual play was entirly sung through or had some speaking. and 2. if there is any available recording of an actual performance, like they have for Cats and Sweeney Todd, one of those filmed stage movies. I really want to see it in its original format. On another note, this makes me really want to see the Pirate Queen (also by Boubil and Schonberg). I might actually take a road trip and watch it on Broadway when it get's there!! anyway, a fanatstic musical, definatly up to par with my friends' rantings! |
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Sweeney Hyde |
1. The show is entirely sung.
2. There is no other filmed version of the musical. The concert version is it, although I REALLY wish there was a real performance. There are numerous cast recodings, however. There is the Original Broadway cast, the highlights CD, and the Symphonic Recodring, among others. I recomend either the OBC or the Symphonic recording, which uses an whole symphony orchestra instead of a pit orchestra. |
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olly |
It's already on Broadway at the moment. It's been revived. | ||||||||
EponineBarker |
Eponine-Lea Salonga
Javert-Philip Quast I wish they had other film versions, it's would've been great to see the OBC filmed on stage! |
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Orestes Fasting |
And me, I'd recommend either the OLC or the recording of the tenth anniversary concert. Don't bother with the OBC; it has little value except that it's easy to find. Not bad, but not good either. |
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EponineBarker |
I'd have to disagree, I think the OBC is quite good. The music and ensemble numbers are a lot better. I'd recommend it. |
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The Very Angry Woman |
Re: Wow!...I just finished watching Le Miz
Can someone translate this to something less filled with fangirl drool? |
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krisavalon |
That's weird that you should mention the concert show. I rented that one from Netflix not two weeks ago, and you're right, it's great. Not as good as the actual show, though, with the scenery and character interactions and whatnot. I have a couple of decent bootlegs of the full show (am I allowed to say that? ), but I don't think there are any official DVDs. Like so many great shows, it remains confined to the stage. | ||||||||
The Very Angry Woman |
You think correctly! |
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What Is This Feeling? |
thinking is never incorrect, only actions are incorrect. | ||||||||
The Very Angry Woman |
I think you are wrong. |
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Mistress |
Re: Wow!...I just finished watching Le Miz
Gee I'm sorry if I offended you with my rave over how much I enjoyed Les Miserables |
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Sweeney Hyde |
Re: Wow!...I just finished watching Le Miz[/quote]Can someone translate this to something less filled with fangirl drool?[/quote]LOL!!! |
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Etoile |
Re: Wow!...I just finished watching Le Miz
Don't worry. Once you know everything about the show and stop thinking Eponine is a cool character, people won't make fun of you anymore. |
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Quique |
Don't listen to them.
Eponine is a great character in the musical, in my opinion. Not my fav character but I enjoy her. There's nothing wrong with liking her. I'm glad you enjoyed the concert. |
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What Is This Feeling? |
Yes, the concert is hot, buit I really wish they would make a filmed stage version of it as well. | ||||||||
The Very Angry Woman |
Re: Wow!...I just finished watching Le Miz
Well, it wasn't so much that, but your bolding, your lack of coherent formatting, the fact that you called it "sung through" and a "play" in the same sentence, and your overall lack of simple research. |
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music is my life!!! |
i remember when i got that dvd out of my school library, i was absolutely astounded by it! that's what got me interested (ok, OBSESSED ) with les mis and musicals in general! I loved the music but when i found out they'd cut a couple of the songs (eponine's errand, the robbery - the basic intro to eponine and marius) i was a little disappointed but i understood why they cut the songs - because of the length of the fab show! I can't believe i'm gonna audition for my local theatre group's version of it in 2 yrs! Yay! | ||||||||
Mistress |
Re: Wow!...I just finished watching Le Miz
Sorry, I guess I was rather being fangirly, but I can explain my other problems. I bolded the questions so people wouldn't skip over them if they speed read through my 'drooling', which I admit it was. I'm just messy about formatting in general...it's a bad habit of mine. I'm also rather lazy about research sometimes...I read the cast list in the video credits previously but I wasn't really in the mood to look it up again. I also wasn't aware that it was offensive to put "play" and "sung through" in the same sentence...anyway, I promise I'll try not to be fangirly anymore and do better research... truce? |
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The Very Angry Woman |
Re: Wow!...I just finished watching Le Miz
It's not offensive. And I'm not offended at all. I am annoyed. |
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Jordan |
Is that anything like a musical codpiece? |
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Lazarus (Adam G) |
There are many, many recorded versions of the show. You just need to know where to look...
Arrrrrr, maties. |
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Aimee |
Re: Wow!...I just finished watching Le Miz
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Robin Hood |
Oh my, I felt exactly the same way when I first saw the TAC . . . . good thing I didn't have access to a computer then, my joy and excitement probably would have come out as pure drool.
As for other recordings . . . here are some links to places where you can listen to them (but not download): The Original French Cast This is where it all started . . . you will notice that it only has parts of the current score and some songs are switched around i.e. Fantine sings IDAD set to the tune of OMO. And keep a sharp ear out for Disco!Amis. (See Les Amis De l'ABC to find out) The lyrics on this one are gorgeous, it most places better than the English translation, go here for a translation of these lyrics. The Original London Cast This is a highlights version of what Les Mis sounded like when it first came out in London. Points of interest are as follows: I Saw Him Once, Cosette's only solo that was cut soon after it came out, a crying shame really. Little People, a cocky little solo of Gavroche's, which was finally cut after being moved around all over the place, including at one point right after Drink With Me. This one has the same Valjean, Marius, and hair buying lady (Crone) as the TAC. The Original Broadway Cast This is what it sounded like when it came to Broadway in the 1980's, it has a few more songs than the TAC, and has the same Valjean, Enjolras and Cosette as the TAC. Bit of trivia, I just saw the Mme. Thenardier from this recording live in LA last July. She was still doing it. Any guesses as to why? The Complete Symphonic Recording This recording includes every note of the show as it stood when it was made, very much worth listening to for all the new parts, unfortunately it is one of the most soul-less of the recordings due to the facts that none of the performers were recorded together because they were all piece-meal from different countrys. This has the awesome Philip Quast, who plays Javert in the TAC. The Duisburg Cast One of the two German cast recordings, fortunately there is no ready translation to this version as the German translation is atrocious, or at least so I've heard. It is nice to listen to though. BTW, if you liked the Valjean from the TAC, you should enjoy listening to him playing the Phantom, not just that, he plays it with Rebecca Caine who is the Cosette in the OLC with him. Oh yeah, do you like Lord of the Rings? A fan group put together a funny parody of One Day More entitled Pelennor, to celebrate the RotK coming out. You can view it here. Hope this helps! God bless, ~Robin Hood |
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The Very Angry Woman |
It's not like Jennifer Butt had been doing Les Miz continuously. She actually had not returned to the show in almost 20 years when she joined the tour. |
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Robin Hood |
Really? Guess I was lucky then.
Thanks for the correction! God bless, ~Robin Hood |
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The Very Angry Woman |
You can see a list of a few of Jennifer's tour predecessors here: http://lesmis.cafemusain.com/cast/alum-cast.html And here is her page on BroadwayLesMis.com: http://www.broadwaylesmis.com/actors.asp?id=8 |
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Robin Hood |
Wow . . . . the first time she did it was the year I was born, just think. . . she waited all those years just to come back for me.
Thanks for the links! God bless, ~Robin Hood |
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jcstar |
I'm currently looking for the castlist of the TAC and which productions they were in. There used to be a site like that (years ago), but I can't find it now.
Anyway, I also love the concert. My review is as follows: Wilkinson: Shaky at the start. He redeemed himself with "Who Am I?" then was amazing for the rest of the concert. His "Bring Him Home" was the best version he has ever done. Quast: I didn't like him for the longest time, simply because his timing was... odd at points ("Confrontation" is an example). I'm still not a big fan of him, but he did do a good job. "Stars" was excellent. Ball: Boring, boring, boring. I've never liked his Marius. The guy who did it on the OBC is better. Lea: I prefer Frances as Eponine. Lea has a good voice and a nice approach to the character, but (to me) she didn't SOUND like Eponine. I must admit, she makes Ball almost listenable. The Thanardiers: Loved both of them. I'm just trying to figure oout what they're talking about during the applause after "Master of the House." Fantine: Beautiful voice. The only thing I didn't enjoy was how youthful she sounded. Compare her with the Fantine on the OBC. That Fantine sounds like she's worn out from life. All the same, good show. Enjoras: AWESOME! He stole the show! Enough said. The children: Very cute, adorable and sang well. I feel sorry for little Cosette, when that balloon exploded (I thought it was a gunshot at first). Litle Gavroche... what can I say? I LOVE his accent! The Bishop... who is he? I've seen his face before... 8 stars out of ten. Andy. |
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Orestes Fasting |
Wilkinson originated Valjean in London and on Broadway; Quast was Javert in in Australia and Manchester and on the UK tour; Henshall was Fantine in London; Ball originated Marius in London; Salonga was Eponine on Broadway around 1993; Kuhn and Maguire originated the roles of Cosette and Enjolras on Broadway; Armstrong originated Thenardier in London; and Galloway I'm not sure, but I think she played Mme T in London at some point. Of the ensemble and cameos, the ones I remember off the top of my head are: The chain gang was made up of former Valjeans, including Mark McKerracher, Phil Cavill, and Jeff Leyton. Michael McCarthy was the TAC factory foreman and has played Javert in about every single English-language production you can name. The hair lady, Beverly Klein, is the same as on the OLC. Matt Cammelle (TAC Feuilly), Mike Sterling (TAC Lesgles), and J�r�me Pradon (TAC Courfeyrac) played Marius in, respectively, London, Manchester, and Paris. Cammelle and David Bardsley (TAC Combeferre) went on to play Enjolras later in the '90s. |
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The Very Angry Woman |
Full cast list here: http://www.first-night-records.com/cart/description.php?II=93&UID=20070122224319216.31.236.194 From London: all the principals except Salonga (who later did play Eponine in London), Kuhn, and Maguire. From Broadway: Wilkinson, Kuhn, Maguire, Salonga From Australia: Quast
You're mad!
Ken Caswell, OLC Bishop and resident director extraordinaire. |
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Orestes Fasting |
Yeah, we all know Adam Jacobs is better than both of them. |
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The Very Angry Woman |
Heh. Well, he could at least outsmile every Marius on the face of the planet (because they then we'd all be blinded.) |
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EponineBarker |
Actually, it was the same Valjean, Cosette & Eponine as the OLC. Enjolras was played by Michael Maguire (amazing!) on Broadway, another guy (I don't remember his name right now) play Enjy in the OLC.
I agree, David Bryant was better. (I love the way he said 'But you will live 'Ponine' in ALFOR) But Ball is good. Personally I like the guy on the 1991 Paris Revival. (Can't remember his name either.)
I agree with this statement too. Les sounded too bitter for my taste. |
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The Very Angry Woman |
J�r�me Pradon? He was adorable then. He's recently made a career in the niche of "exciting, but completely batsh*t insane guys." Although he's getting out of it now by playing Aragon. (!) |
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Gwen |
Re: Wow!...I just finished watching Le Miz
Okay. so basically, you've never seen any versions of this musical, (not play,) whatsoever, besides a recorded concert version, and you're already saying that the people in this version are unmatched? That's going a bit far if you've never even seen it being performed in an actual staged version. I've only heard the OBC cast and some of the OLC, and was lucky enough to see it on tour. But I'm not calling any one of those "unmatched." I'd suggest doing more research, and listening to some of those clips. By the way Robin Hood, congrats! I saw her too! I had heard the OBC recording before seeing it, and had no idea she was there. I recognized her voice, but was only able to confirm it aftterward. Man, I would've begged for a signing if it were okay with her, had I known she was there. I mean, I had already guessed it was her, but it was too dark to read the program untill afterward when I had to leave. I wanted to stay and meet the cast but my mom made me go with her.... .....Angry woman, did you mean to say Aragorn? I don't know of anything with an "Aragon" in it except "Eragon" played by Ed Speelers in the film. (blah.) The Lord of the Rings character Aragorn has an r in the spelling of the name.... |
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The Very Angry Woman |
Re: Wow!...I just finished watching Le Miz
A woman after my own heart! Please post more.
Possibly. But considering I was dragged kicking and screaming to all three movies, I have very little reason to care about the stories or ensuing franchise(s). |
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Moci |
Other people have already posted, so it's a bit unnecessary now, but I put together a list a while ago and just updated it to post here. It doesn't include the chorus, because there's loads of them and my attention span isn't limitless. I'm not guaranteeing any dates, because one or two were based on only snippets of information and some people might have actually understudied the part and not been honest in their biographies. If you notice that I've missed someone out, or can amend or add in any way, feel free. Anyway, here goes: Valjean: Colm Wilkinson London- 1985 - 1986 Broadway 1987 - 1988 Toronto 1998 - 1999 UK Tour (Dublin) 1999 Third National Tour (San Francisco and Shanghi, China) 2002 Tenth Anniversary Concert 1995 Hey Mr Producer! Segment 1998 Javert: Philip Quast Sydney, Australia 1987 London 1989 Adelaide, Australia 1991 Brisbane, Australia 1991 Auckland, New Zealand 1991 UK Tour (Manchester) 1992 Tenth Anniversary Concert 1995 Hey Mr Producer! Segment 1998 Fantine: Ruthie Henshall London 1992 London 1996 Tenth Anniversary Concert 1995 Chelmsford Concert 1997 Hey Mr Producer! Segment 1998 Th�nardier: Alun Armstrong London 1985-1986 Tenth Anniversary Concert 1995 Mme Th�nardier: Jenny Galloway London 1993/4 Broadway 2006/7 Tenth Anniversary Concert 1995 Sweden/Norway/Denmark Concerts 2002 Marius: Michael Ball London 1985 - 1986 Tenth Anniversary Concert 1995 Hey Mr Producer! Segment 1998 (Jean Valjean at Windsor Castle Concert 2004) Eponine:Lea Salonga Broadway 1993 London 1996 Third National Tour (Honolulu) 1996 Tenth Anniversary Concert 1995 Hey Mr Producer! Segment 1998 (Fantine on Broadway soon) Cosette:Judy Kuhn Broadway 1987-8 Tenth Anniversary Concert 1995 Enjolras: Michael Maguire Broadway 1987-8 Tenth Anniversary Concert 1995 Grantaire: Anthony Crivello Broadway 1987-8 Tenth Anniversary Concert 1995 (Javert on Broadway 1987/8-ish) Little Cosette: Hannah Chick London 1993/4 Tenth Anniversary Concert 1995 Gavroche: Adam Searles London 1994 Tenth Anniversary Concert 1995 Chelmsford Concert 1997 UK Tour (Plymouth) 1997 Convict: Craig Pinder (Courfeyrac) London 1985-6 (Valjean) London 1988 Convict: Mark McKerracher (Valjean) Broadway 1992 - 1993 London 1993 UK Tour (Edinburgh) ? First National Tour ? Convict: James Staddon (Comberferre) London 1992 (Javert) London 1993 - 1995 Convict: Phil Cavill (Valjean) London 1994 - 1996 London 2006 UK Tour (Edinburgh) 1998 Convict: Jeff Leyton (Valjean) UK Tour (Manchester & Edinburgh)- 1992/3 London 1995 London 1997 UK Tour (Bristol)- 1998 UK Tour (Manchester) 2000 Chelmsford Concert 1997 Belfast Concert 2001 London 2003/4 Farmer: Halcro Johnston (Brujon) London 1989-90 Labourer/Jean Prouvaire: Peter Polycarpou (Jean Prouvaire) London 1985 - 1986 (Grantaire) London 1986 (Th�nardier) 1992 - 1993 Bishop: Paul Monaghan: (Bishop/Lesgles) London 1992/3 (Bishop/Combeferre) UK Tour 2000 London 2000 -2002 Constable: Jonathan Hart (Jean Prouvaire) London 1995 (Grantaire) Sweden/Norway/Denmark Concerts 2002 Constable: Glyn Kerslake (Swing) London 1988 Enjolras 1996-8 Factory Foreman: Michael McCarthy (Factory Foreman/Combeferre) London 1990-91 (Javert) UK Tour (Manchester & Edinburgh) 1992/3 London 1995-7 Sydney/Melbourne, Australia 1997/8 London 2001/2 Third National Tour (San Francisco & Shanghai, China) 2002 Broadway 2003 London 2003-2005 Chelmsford Concert 1997 Sweden/Norway/Denmark Concerts 2002 Windsor Castle Concert 2004 Worker: Nigel Richards (Factory Foreman/Combeferre) London 1992 (Grantaire) London 1993 Worker: Christopher Beck (Joly) London 1985-6 Worker: Gary Huddleston (Feuilly) London 1985 � 1987 Worker: Catherine Breeze (Ensemble) London 1992/3 (Mme Th�nardier) UK Tour 1997-9 Worker: Rachel Spry (Ensemble) UK Tour 1992 Chelmsford Concert 1997 London 2001 Sweden/Norway/Denmark Concerts 2002 Windsor Castle Concert 2004 Worker: Sally Bourne (Swing) London 1995/6 (Ensemble) Sweden/Norway/Denmark Concerts 2002 Worker: Sally Mates (Ensemble) London 1985/6 Factory Girl: Jackie Marks (Factory Girl) London 1985 (Fantine) London 1985/6 Sailor: Shaun Kerrison (Swing) London 1992/3 (Feuilly) London 1993/4 Sailor: Graham Gill (Joly) London 1986-8 Sailor: James Powell (Joly) London 1993-6 Crone: Beverly Klein (Crone) London 1985/6 Whore: Juliet Alderice (Swing) London 1986/7 Whore: Rosemary Ashe (Mme Th�nardier) London 1992/3 London 2002/3 Exeter & Romsey Concerts 2004 Whore: Valda Aviks (Ensemble) London 1990-2 (Crone) Sweden/Norway/Denmark Concerts 2002 Whore: Mary Louise Clarke (Cosette) London 1988 Whore: Lindsey Danvers (Swing) London 1992 (Fantine) London 1993-5 UK Tour (Bristol and Manchester) 1999-2000 Whore: Sarah Jane Hassell (Cosette) London 1990-2 Whore: Liza Hayden (Ensemble, u/s Gavroche) London 1985- 87 Whore: Lisa Hull (Cosette) London 1989/90 London 1996 Whore: Alison Jiear (Ensemble) London 1993 Whore: Aline Mowat (Ensemble) 1985-7 Whore: Jayne O�Mahoney (Little Cosette) London 1985-6 (Ensemble) London 1995 London 1997 UK Tour 1999/2000 Whore: Fiona Sinnott (Cosette) UK Tour 1992/3 Whore: Gemma Wardle (Ensemble) UK Tour 1992/3 (Eponine) London 1993-5 London 1997/8 UK Tour London 2004/5 Whore: Helene Witcombe (Ensemble) UK Tour 1992/3 Pimp: Andy Reiss (Combeferre) UK Tour 1992/3 London 1994 Bamatabois: Gareth Snook (Grantaire/Bamatabois) London 1988 Old Prostitute: Jill Martin (Ensemble) London 1985-6 Madeleine: Jacinta Whyte (Ensemble) London 1989 (Eponine) UK Tour 1993 London 1995 Combeferre: David Bardsley (Combeferre) London 1994 (Grantaire) London 1994 (Enjolras) London 1995/6 UK Tour (Dublin) 1999 Chelmsford Concert 1997 Exeter & Romsey Concerts 2004 Feuilly: Matthew Cammelle (Jean Prouvaire) London 1993/4 (Feuilly) London 1994/5 (Marius) London 1995/6 Chelmsford Concert 1997 (Enjolras- alternate for the nights when Glyn Kerslake was in �Martin Guerre�) London 1997/8 (Enjolras) London 1998 Sweden/Norway/Denmark Concerts 2002 (Ensemble) Windsor Castle Concert 2004 Courfeyrac: J�r�me Pradon (Marius) Paris 1991 (Javert) London 2002 Joly: Darryl Knock (Marius) London 1992 Lesgles: Mike Sterling (Feuilly) London 1991/2 (Marius) UK Tour (Manchester) 1992 (Valjean) London 2002 (Combeferre) Chelmsford Concert 1997 Montparnasse: Keith Burns (Montparnasse) London 1985-6 (Enjolras) London 1992/3 Claquesous: Stephen Matthews (Babet) London 1993/4 London 1999 - 2000 Babet: Tony Timberlake (Jean Prouvaire) London 1990/1 (Th�nardier) UK Tour (Manchester) 1992 London 2001 Bournemouth Concert 2002 Exeter & Romsey Concerts 2004 Brujon: Nick Holder (Brujon) London 1988 (Th�nardier) London 1997/8 Loudhailer: Christopher Howard (Enjolras) London 1988/90 Stage By Stage: Les Mis�rables |
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The Very Angry Woman |
Great resource for chronology:
http://www.broadwaylesmis.com |
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Robin Hood |
I said they were the same as the TAC . . . the person I was replying to had only seen the TAC and I wanted to give her the names of cast members she'd recognize. Sorry for the misunderstanding! Gwen, thats cool! Unfortunately I saw a noon performance, so I didn't get to meet anyone either. Did you see Ali Etwolt as Cosette? She was an understudy on the tour I saw, but I saw Susanna Nealy Bridges. God bless, ~Robin Hood |
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The Very Angry Woman |
Performers do come out the stage door after matinees too. What did you think of Suzanna? I only saw the tour twice after she joined, and not when she went on as Cosette. |
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LesMisForever |
Re: Wow!...I just finished watching Le Miz
A woman after my own heart! Please post more. |
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Orestes Fasting |
You win the universe. *goes off to update a few cast lists* |
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Gwen |
Re: Wow!...I just finished watching Le Miz
I'm usually not like this, but it comes out every once in a blue moon... and it appears I've spelled the word "people" wrong....*goes to correct* |
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Mistress |
Re: Wow!...I just finished watching Le Miz
Once again I apologize for being too fangirly. I guess I shouldn't post right after watching a show, in any format! I guess what I should've said was that I thought Wilkinson set extremely high standards for the role and it's probably hard for any actor, past or present, to attain those standards. I'll take your advice and watch more clips and soundtrack bits, as I dpon't live anywhere near where Les Mis is currently showing...but I will try to see it sometime when it is more accessible! |
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The Very Angry Woman |
Re: Wow!...I just finished watching Le Miz
There is no Les Miz soundtrack. |
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Orestes Fasting |
Re: Wow!...I just finished watching Le Miz
Nonsense. The soundtrack to the 1998 movie goes up on ebay all the time. |
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The Very Angry Woman |
Re: Wow!...I just finished watching Le Miz
Ah, but that's Les Mis�rables. |
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Robin Hood |
Aww . .. really? I thought they only did meet and greet at the evening performances. *sigh* I liked her, of course I was sitting in the way back and could hardly see a thing, she sounded nice though. The one think I didn't like (probably not her fault though) was the staging for AHFOL, they're supposed to be in love, and they stand like, three feet apart for the whole song. Also I was a bit surprised to see that the role she usually played was one of the old crones. I hadn't realized how young the overall cast was. Do you know if, in the original production, everyone was age appropriate? I mean at least for the Bishop and the hair-and-necklace ladies. God bless, ~Robin Hood |
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The Very Angry Woman |
Actors do get out for food and errands between shows. They're not holed up all day, and they don't leave expressly to meet the fans. Not everyone leaves the theatre (some nap or email), but most do.
That role is always the Cosette understudy track. |
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The Pirate King |
Re: Wow!...I just finished watching Le Miz
The Lord of the Rings is not a franchise--it's a highly respected and beloved vast literary work. |
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The Very Angry Woman |
Re: Wow!...I just finished watching Le Miz
You may not like to call it one, but it's a franchise now. When you can get Frodo codpieces and Legolas earrings, it's a franchise, regardless of how vast and respected its origins. As is Les Mis�rables. |
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Starsong |
Does that mean that you have a visual recording? Is it possible for you to share it with another hopelessly adicted Les Mis-fangirl? |
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Jordan |
From the rules: 13. Soliciting and illegal suggestions/activities are not permitted. |